I have been waiting for a conversation as no-one seems to be kick starting anything.
I posted a single Glmark2 on discord and it just went quiet and thought maybe its still not time to disclose?
Didn’t do an awful lot with it as the supplied image on the eMMC seemed to work great.
You prob need to start up a conv invite like the R5b
Talk about Zero2
Once it is generally available we should get more discussion about it. Right now most people have no hardware so there is nothing to talk about.
Thank you! When is the aforementioned “general availability” currently expected to occur?
Hi Yuntian!
How can I buy a dev board or have to wait for release?
Thanks!
We do not sell development samples since they are immature products and not worth supporting. Please wait for the product release.
It seems at least the developer samples ship with an Amlogic boot BLOB that limits the A53 cores to 1720 MHz and the A73 to 2200 MHz. Will this change with the final product?
I’m not aware you can change that. I think I built the fip from p-amlogic-openlinux-20190720-ott-aosp.tar.gz. If you know how to make it work better please let me know.
I would believe you need to talk to your Amlogic contact.
When VIM3 was released A311D was stuck at 1800/2000 MHz but later they got a BLOB from Amlogic allowing to clock the cores higher. With Armbian A311D on VIM3 is at 2400/2000 MHz.
Same story with Hardkernel, they started at 1800/1900 MHz, then got a BLOB to allow for 2000/1900 and are now at 2400/2015. They are talking about using now a S922X-B and at least it’s a C stepping and not A as on the N2.
EDIT: Armbian for whatever reasons seems to switch back with N2 to 1800/1900 MHz with its 22.08 release. Upgrade your distro, get lower performance as every average user expects! In the meantime Debian images (most probably by meveric) are already at 2000/2000 MHz.
Khadas had to do some deal with Amlogic as the MCU blob was licenced and on release the Vim3 it was locked but later releases its unlocked or at least it has predefined OC rates to choose from.
Its in the forum and again with my memory its foggy but a Google ‘VIM3 OC’ should get you there.
It was a bit similar to the NPU as users had to sign a weird licence agreement to get the verisilicon toolkit.
I like too see the following
1.) 8 GB Ram Option
2.) Wifi6 for WPA3 Enterprise Safety maybe white E
3.) An Touchdisplay Case with Battery maked from aluminic
Whats your wishes ?
best regard
Any updates Jack? Clearly the “before September” ship date did not happen.
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+1 here. Any info? 
If the wifi would be good in the zero, i could be happy, but unfortunately it’s still not working as intended.
Hi Yuntinan!
Do you have anything about release date?
Nothing so far. ZERO 2 is kinda on the back burner right now as we are rushing through ROCK 5B release, and now preparing for Radxa E23/E25 releases.
Is the Zero2 concept close to the chopping block?
No. I think we have a good stock of A311D and were looking for possibly S905D3 swap to further reduce the price. The design is quite good in the first go and we only did minor bug fixes so far (unlike a certain Model B…). It is just not that high of a priority.
Would that not be a very small upgrade over the S905Y2 Radxa Zero? Apart from the NPU and A55 vs A53 there is not an awful lot of difference but I could be wrong but I think the memory bottle neck to the GPU in the S905D3 was fixed and even though the same Mali-G31 MP2 the S905D3 might in operation provide better results but with my memory I would have to check if that is right as a foggy memory now.
I guess if the A311D is not cost effective its not cost effective as the Khadas Vim3 Basic (2gb) is $10 less than a Rock5b (4gb) which is prob a hard sell as when avail I know which one I would prefer.
I agree, this makes for a far less intriguing sbc. Plus the A311D is an hexa-core processor with four Cortex A73 cores and two Cortex A53 cores. Also wouldn’t that be dropping the possibility of having CAM support by using a S905D3? I believe so.
The primary issue with Zero from our users is the lack of CSI and DSI interfaces. S905D3 plugs those 2 holes with a basic NPU, so it could be a mid-step between S905Y2 and A311D. We also did not plan any SKU with less than 4GB memory on Zero 2 since the SoC is so premium, so S905D3 could allow us to fill the price gap in between on a largely similar/exact same design.
I do not believe the intention is to drop A311D altogether. The only thing we did with S905D3 so far is just a simple chip swap and a test boot with A311D image (it didn’t boot). So if we are serious about retire A311D entirely we would surely do more than that.
I actually kindly received a Zero2 pre release board and its a great little board and have been wondering what happened to release as things just seemed to stop.
My main curiosity was price due to the khadas pricing, I quite like the Khadas Vim3 but IMO the Rock5B pricing really kills its attractiveness, as that is a hell of a lot more SBC for $10 more.
From memory I got in my head a max of $75 for the A311d and if its premium is above that then likely its a dead duck.
I am hoping for a Rock5A with the RK3588S onboard that will be less cost than the Rock5B that makes me think the $75 mark is approx right or maybe there are better options of not much different cost to go for.
Premium keeps being stressed and this is making me think otherwise and maybe its just not a wise idea as the Radxa product line maybe already bloated with functionally & performance wise quite similar offerings which must kill economies of scale and partition user and support bases that are a big part of Raspberry success.
If a S905D3 2GB is nearer the RadxaZero price than maybe a A311D is nearer a Rock5b it could be option if the CSI & DSI interfaces are such a big issue. Can it be even nearer Zero price and maybe even provide a 1GB model? Also maybe think of dropping the 40pin GPIO for something of higher density that can use optional breakout board of standard Pi pinout to stop pin mux revision musical chairs ( I like what Khadas did with the edge2 with 2x 30 & pogo pads and been wondering for a while if onboard 40pin is now just a awkward legacy that can be just an optional daughter board).
If a SBC is not 100% pi format to garner drop in place compliance then why try with what is really a peculiar format based on early pi legacy than any real advantage?
Raspberries achilles heel is the VC4/6 GPU as it sucks big style and whatever they may claim its still a pretty mediocre desktop experience / retro gaming experience that maybe if your not a Pi Fan boy DSI is important to garner lower cost hat based displays but CSI likely a lesser need as Raspberry has $15 Zero2 with a CSI-2 that can provide the headless type of apps relatively easy even if it lacks an onboard NPU.
Things have gone bat-shit-crazy as 1st we had the silicon shortage and now we have global inflation and I am wondering if Raspberries current out of stock status is more due to cost than silicon availability.
If your having such reservations maybe it is better to park that bus than implement another SBC competing in the same space as other Radxa products whilst further splitting your own user base.