Loosing Hard drives

#1

OK one last try,

When i start my Pi up it will often only start with 3 drives, sometimes it does find all 4, and then when running it will lose a drive randomly

its not always the same drive and I have already

  1. moved drives around and the issues does not follow the drive, it also is not always the same SATA port.
  2. rinstalled from scratch (twice) using the light version of rispberrypi OS

this is the section of my dmesg and all it seems to show is that it just does not see the drive

[ 13.512146] i2c /dev entries driver
[ 17.064007] usb 2-2: new SuperSpeed Gen 1 USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd
[ 17.095622] usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1058, idProduct=0a10, bcdDevice=81.36
[ 17.095645] usb 2-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=5
[ 17.095663] usb 2-2: Product: JMS56x Series
[ 17.095681] usb 2-2: Manufacturer: JMicron
[ 17.095698] usb 2-2: SerialNumber: 1234567890123
[ 17.141602] scsi host0: uas
[ 17.143424] scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access WDC WD20 SPZX-22UA7T0 8136 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
[ 17.146960] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 3907029168 512-byte logical blocks: (2.00 TB/1.82 TiB)
[ 17.147283] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
[ 17.147305] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 67 00 10 08
[ 17.147921] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, supports DPO and FUA
[ 17.148450] scsi 0:0:0:1: Direct-Access WDC WD20 SPZX-22UA7T0 8136 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
[ 17.148925] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Optimal transfer size 33553920 bytes
[ 17.151687] sd 0:0:0:1: [sdb] 3907029168 512-byte logical blocks: (2.00 TB/1.82 TiB)
[ 17.152005] sd 0:0:0:1: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[ 17.152027] sd 0:0:0:1: [sdb] Mode Sense: 67 00 10 08
[ 17.152615] sd 0:0:0:1: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, supports DPO and FUA
[ 17.153499] sd 0:0:0:1: [sdb] Optimal transfer size 33553920 bytes
[ 17.318804] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[ 17.320250] sd 0:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
[ 17.465007] sda: sda1
[ 17.473408] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
[ 17.474363] sdb: sdb1
[ 17.484568] sd 0:0:0:1: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
[ 17.568283] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.22
[ 17.568393] NET: Registered protocol family 31
[ 17.568410] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[ 17.568440] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[ 17.568464] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[ 17.568513] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[ 17.588752] Bluetooth: HCI UART driver ver 2.3
[ 17.588775] Bluetooth: HCI UART protocol H4 registered
[ 17.588880] Bluetooth: HCI UART protocol Three-wire (H5) registered
[ 17.589224] Bluetooth: HCI UART protocol Broadcom registered
[ 17.952116] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3
[ 17.952137] Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast
[ 17.952169] Bluetooth: BNEP socket layer initialized
[ 22.203524] usb 2-1: new SuperSpeed Gen 1 USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
[ 22.235143] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=1058, idProduct=0a10, bcdDevice=81.36
[ 22.235167] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=5
[ 22.235186] usb 2-1: Product: JMS56x Series
[ 22.235204] usb 2-1: Manufacturer: JMicron
[ 22.235221] usb 2-1: SerialNumber: 1234567890123
[ 22.294407] scsi host1: uas
[ 22.302132] scsi 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access WDC WD20 SPZX-22UA7T0 8136 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
[ 22.324709] sd 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[ 22.325216] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdc] 3907029168 512-byte logical blocks: (2.00 TB/1.82 TiB)
[ 22.325597] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[ 22.325618] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 67 00 10 08
[ 22.326169] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdc] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, supports DPO and FUA
[ 22.327056] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdc] Optimal transfer size 33553920 bytes
[ 22.446490] sdc: sdc1
[ 22.450916] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk

Whats going on and how can i get this working!

#2

assuming the dmesg here is complete the whole initialisation of 4th HDD sd 1:0:0:1 is completely missing (sdd1)
so, do you have 4 blue LEDs?
you mentioned already that error is not following the disk (do they have a sticky note?) and is not bound to a SATA hat
but give it try
a) how does dmesg look if you put 1st HDD on 4th position (only that change, nothing more)
b) did you update the F/W of jms56 How to upgrade F/W with jms561 under Raspberry Pi
c) it seems that you use four same HDDs, did you consider
Quad Sata Kit and OpenMediaVault 5 (Raspberry Pi 4)

#3

The dont have sticky note but they are labled 1 to 4 with a fine tip marker.

answers to questions

All harddisks are 2TB WD drives, all work find in a single disk USB caddy.

a. It always shows the same no matter what disk fails, its not always the 4th drive, 1st, 2nd and 3rd also often don’t appear.
I have restarted the device 3 or 4 times today, once i got all drives to apper, once i only got drive 2 and 4, and twice i was only missing drive 4

b. Yes firmware is updated .

c. Yes done the “/lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules” fix as only was getting 2 drives untill I did this. In OMV when the drives do apper they all have the correct SN’s

#4

[…] all work find in a single disk USB caddy […]
this is not expected by me, could you post a picture of that

to a) yes, you already mentioned that in the beginning
we need to have fix starting point and then to move forward with one carefull small step to the next stable ground to do next carefull small step or even to step back if it is not stable
if it is already on start up unstable we should first focus on the startup scenario and not why disk sometimes get lost after time
startup issue this is good as it exclude scenarios like overheating, load peaks, other apps interfering
so far we have only dmesg to analyse, which is not a bad starting point
but we have to see the whole dmesg
if you think they are big to post in this thread, feel free to PM them to me

I noticed you started already in June last year
maybe you had some struggles with heat and with extremly fast switching to idle causing stress to the HDDs
could you share a whole SMART report of each disk
and what is your recent idle time set (with the JMS561FwUpdate -d xxx -t zzz)?
and does idling work as expected (confirmed by listening if HDD stop spinning after the time passed)?

#5

4 spinners.
Power problems?
Maybe?

#6

I was wondering that thejoedoe, but any thoughts on how to tell? I am running the 12volt 5amp supply that came with it. What is the max that the SATA hat can provide?

The 4 drives have this power requirment below, and the supply should be 60W so is there any specs on what the HAT can deliver?

Aaron

Average power requirements
(W)
Read/Write 1.7
Idle 0.5
Standby and Sleep 0.1

#7

Here you are this is the disk in a caddy connected to my windows machine, not going to initialize it (have done this before) as i dont want to over write it. but jsut to show the drive is working.

Also in OMV you can see the 3 drives connected to the SATA HAT and the one via USB3 device (external caddy). I have run it like this for days in the past with out issue.

So this does not appear to be a drive issue, as I can take any one drive and place it in the caddy and it works with out issue.

One difference is the exteranl caddy does have its own seperate power supply how even if i disconnect this it can run just fine on the power delivered though the USB lead from the Pi.

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#8

I have not changed this, how can i check what it is currently hdpram

#9

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e[32m[ 1.250681] e[0me[33mpci 0000:01:00.0e[0m: reg 0x10: [mem 0x00000000-0x00000fff 64bit]
e[32m[ 1.251131] e[0me[33mpci 0000:01:00.0e[0m: PME# supported from D0 D3cold
e[32m[ 1.254638] e[0me[33mPCIe[0m: bus1: Fast back to back transfers disabled
e[32m[ 1.254751] e[0me[33mpci 0000:00:00.0e[0m: BAR 8: assigned [mem 0x600000000-0x6000fffff]
e[32m[ 1.254791] e[0me[33mpci 0000:01:00.0e[0m: BAR 0: assigned [mem 0x600000000-0x600000fff 64bit]
e[32m[ 1.254894] e[0me[33mpci 0000:00:00.0e[0m: PCI bridge to [bus 01]
e[32m[ 1.254934] e[0me[33mpci 0000:00:00.0e[0m: bridge window [mem 0x600000000-0x6000fffff]
e[32m[ 1.255358] e[0me[33mpcieport 0000:00:00.0e[0m: enabling device (0140 -> 0142)
e[32m[ 1.255602] e[0me[33mpcieport 0000:00:00.0e[0m: PME: Signaling with IRQ 63
e[32m[ 1.264158] e[0me[33miproc-rng200 fe104000.rnge[0m: hwrng registered
e[32m[ 1.264483] e[0me[33mvc-meme[0m: phys_addr:0x00000000 mem_base=0x3ec00000 mem_size:0x40000000(1024 MiB)
e[32m[ 1.265370] e[0me[33mgpiomem-bcm2835 fe200000.gpiomeme[0m: Initialised: Registers at 0xfe200000
e[32m[ 1.277644] e[0me[33mbrde[0m: module loaded
e[32m[ 1.289908] e[0me[33mloope[0m: module loaded
e[32m[ 1.291584] e[0mLoading iSCSI transport class v2.0-870.
e[32m[ 1.294111] e[0me[33mlibphye[0m: Fixed MDIO Bus: probed
e[32m[ 1.295832] e[0me[33mbcmgenet fd580000.ethernete[0m: GENET 5.0 EPHY: 0x0000
e[32m[ 1.313765] e[0me[33mlibphye[0m: bcmgenet MII bus: probed
e[32m[ 1.393885] e[0me[33munimac-mdio unimac-mdio.-19e[0m: Broadcom UniMAC MDIO bus
e[32m[ 1.395067] e[0me[33musbcoree[0m: registered new interface driver r8152
e[32m[ 1.395154] e[0me[33musbcoree[0m: registered new interface driver lan78xx
e[32m[ 1.395231] e[0me[33musbcoree[0m: registered new interface driver smsc95xx
e[32m[ 1.396859] e[0me[33mxhci_hcd 0000:01:00.0e[0m: enabling device (0140 -> 0142)
e[32m[ 1.397040] e[0me[33mxhci_hcd 0000:01:00.0e[0m: xHCI Host Controller
e[32m[ 1.397089] e[0me[33mxhci_hcd 0000:01:00.0e[0m: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
e[32m[ 1.400444] e[0me[33mxhci_hcd 0000:01:00.0e[0m: hcc params 0x002841eb hci version 0x100 quirks 0x0000030000000890
e[32m[ 1.401795] e[0me[33musb usb1e[0m: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0002, bcdDevice= 5.10
e[32m[ 1.401836] e[0me[33musb usb1e[0m: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
e[32m[ 1.401871] e[0me[33musb usb1e[0m: Product: xHCI Host Controller
e[32m[ 1.401901] e[0me[33musb usb1e[0m: Manufacturer: Linux 5.10.17-v7l+ xhci-hcd
e[32m[ 1.401932] e[0me[33musb usb1e[0m: SerialNumber: 0000:01:00.0
e[32m[ 1.402695] e[0me[33mhub 1-0:1.0e[0m: USB hub found
e[32m[ 1.402821] e[0me[33mhub 1-0:1.0e[0m: 1 port detected
e[32m[ 1.403503] e[0me[33mxhci_hcd 0000:01:00.0e[0m: xHCI Host Controller
e[32m[ 1.403560] e[0me[33mxhci_hcd 0000:01:00.0e[0m: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
e[32m[ 1.403605] e[0me[33mxhci_hcd 0000:01:00.0e[0m: Host supports USB 3.0 SuperSpeed
e[32m[ 1.404209] e[0me[33musb usb2e[0m: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0003, bcdDevice= 5.10
e[32m[ 1.404249] e[0me[33musb usb2e[0m: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
e[32m[ 1.404285] e[0me[33musb usb2e[0m: Product: xHCI Host Controller
e[32m[ 1.404314] e[0me[33musb usb2e[0m: Manufacturer: Linux 5.10.17-v7l+ xhci-hcd
e[32m[ 1.404345] e[0me[33musb usb2e[0m: SerialNumber: 0000:01:00.0
e[32m[ 1.405065] e[0me[33mhub 2-0:1.0e[0m: USB hub found
e[32m[ 1.405157] e[0me[33mhub 2-0:1.0e[0m: 4 ports detected
e[32m[ 1.406860] e[0me[33mdwc_otge[0m: version 3.00a 10-AUG-2012 (platform bus)
e[32m[ 1.407189] e[0me[33mdwc_otge[0m: FIQ enabled
e[32m[ 1.407203] e[0me[33mdwc_otge[0m: NAK holdoff enabled
e[32m[ 1.407218] e[0me[33mdwc_otge[0m: FIQ split-transaction FSM enabled
e[32m[ 1.407236] e[0mModule dwc_common_port init
e[32m[ 1.407666] e[0me[33musbcoree[0m: registered new interface driver uas
e[32m[ 1.407793] e[0me[33musbcoree[0m: registered new interface driver usb-storage
e[32m[ 1.408001] e[0me[33mmousedeve[0m: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
e[32m[ 1.409691] e[0me[33mbcm2835-wdt bcm2835-wdte[0m: Broadcom BCM2835 watchdog timer
e[32m[ 1.413204] e[0me[33msdhcie[0m: Secure Digital Host Controller Interface driver
e[32m[ 1.413237] e[0me[33msdhcie[0m: Copyright© Pierre Ossman
e[32m[ 1.414058] e[0me[33mmmc-bcm2835 fe300000.mmcnre[0m: could not get clk, deferring probe
e[32m[ 1.414721] e[0me[33msdhci-pltfme[0m: SDHCI platform and OF driver helper
e[32m[ 1.418921] e[0me[33mledtrig-cpue[0m: registered to indicate activity on CPUs
e[32m[ 1.419284] e[0me[33mhide[0m: raw HID events driver © Jiri Kosina
e[32m[ 1.419510] e[0me[33musbcoree[0m: registered new interface driver usbhid
e[32m[ 1.419540] e[0me[33musbhide[0m: USB HID core driver
e[32m[ 1.425314] e[0mInitializing XFRM netlink socket
e[32m[ 1.425376] e[0me[33mNETe[0m: Registered protocol family 17
e[32m[ 1.425510] e[0mKey type dns_resolver registered
e[32m[ 1.425880] e[0mRegistering SWP/SWPB emulation handler
e[32m[ 1.426074] e[0mregistered taskstats version 1
e[32m[ 1.426115] e[0mLoading compiled-in X.509 certificates
e[32m[ 1.426962] e[0mKey type ._fscrypt registered
e[32m[ 1.426993] e[0mKey type .fscrypt registered
e[32m[ 1.427021] e[0mKey type fscrypt-provisioning registered
e[32m[ 1.438592] e[0me[33muart-pl011 fe201000.seriale[0m: there is not valid maps for state default
e[32m[ 1.438934] e[0me[33muart-pl011 fe201000.seriale[0m: cts_event_workaround enabled
e[32m[ 1.439039] e[0me[33mfe201000.seriale[0m: ttyAMA0 at MMIO 0xfe201000 (irq = 36, base_baud = 0) is a PL011 rev2
e[32m[ 1.445756] e[0me[33mbcm2835-power bcm2835-powere[0m: Broadcom BCM2835 power domains driver
e[32m[ 1.446832] e[0me[33mmmc-bcm2835 fe300000.mmcnre[0m: mmc_debug:0 mmc_debug2:0
e[32m[ 1.446866] e[0me[33mmmc-bcm2835 fe300000.mmcnre[0m: DMA channel allocated
e[32m[ 1.477155] e[0mof_cfs_init
e[32m[ 1.477436] e[0me[33mof_cfs_inite[0m: OK
e[32m[ 1.497455] e[0me[33mmmc1e[0me[1m: queuing unknown CIS tuple 0x80 (2 bytes)e[0m
e[32m[ 1.499162] e[0me[33mmmc1e[0me[1m: queuing unknown CIS tuple 0x80 (3 bytes)e[0m
e[32m[ 1.500865] e[0me[33mmmc1e[0me[1m: queuing unknown CIS tuple 0x80 (3 bytes)e[0m
e[32m[ 1.503978] e[0me[33mmmc1e[0me[1m: queuing unknown CIS tuple 0x80 (7 bytes)e[0m
e[32m[ 1.505682] e[0me[33mmmc1e[0me[1m: queuing unknown CIS tuple 0x80 (3 bytes)e[0m
e[32m[ 1.513662] e[0me[33mmmc0e[0m: SDHCI controller on fe340000.emmc2 [fe340000.emmc2] using ADMA
e[32m[ 1.515877] e[0mWaiting for root device PARTUUID=d4c604ee-02…
e[32m[ 1.550131] e[0me[33mrandome[0m: fast init done
e[32m[ 1.573048] e[0me[33mmmc1e[0m: new high speed SDIO card at address 0001
e[32m[ 1.763734] e[0me[33musb 1-1e[0m: new high-speed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd
e[32m[ 1.786481] e[0me[33mmmc0e[0m: new ultra high speed DDR50 SDHC card at address 1b1c
e[32m[ 1.787404] e[0me[33mmmcblk0e[0m: mmc0:1b1c UC0D5 29.8 GiB
e[32m[ 1.789520] e[0me[33m mmcblk0e[0m: p1 p2
e[32m[ 1.821924] e[0me[33mEXT4-fs (mmcblk0p2)e[0m: INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem
e[32m[ 1.821967] e[0me[33mEXT4-fs (mmcblk0p2)e[0m: write access will be enabled during recovery
e[32m[ 1.920574] e[0me[33mEXT4-fs (mmcblk0p2)e[0m: recovery complete
e[32m[ 1.925103] e[0me[33mEXT4-fs (mmcblk0p2)e[0m: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
e[32m[ 1.925198] e[0me[33mVFSe[0m: Mounted root (ext4 filesystem) readonly on device 179:2.
e[32m[ 1.930025] e[0me[33mdevtmpfse[0m: mounted
e[32m[ 1.938991] e[0me[33mFreeing unused kernel memorye[0m: 2048K
e[32m[ 1.939333] e[0mRun /sbin/init as init process
e[32m[ 1.939362] e[0m with arguments:
e[32m[ 1.939376] e[0m /sbin/init
e[32m[ 1.939390] e[0m with environment:
e[32m[ 1.939404] e[0m HOME=/
e[32m[ 1.939418] e[0m TERM=linux
e[32m[ 1.946401] e[0me[33musb 1-1e[0m: New USB device found, idVendor=2109, idProduct=3431, bcdDevice= 4.21
e[32m[ 1.946444] e[0me[33musb 1-1e[0m: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1, SerialNumber=0
e[32m[ 1.946479] e[0me[33musb 1-1e[0m: Product: USB2.0 Hub
e[32m[ 1.948563] e[0me[33mhub 1-1:1.0e[0m: USB hub found
e[32m[ 1.948857] e[0me[33mhub 1-1:1.0e[0m: 4 ports detected
e[32m[ 2.382998] e[0me[33msystemd[1]e[0m: System time before build time, advancing clock.
e[32m[ 2.494233] e[0me[33mNETe[0m: Registered protocol family 10
e[32m[ 2.495648] e[0mSegment Routing with IPv6
e[32m[ 2.558831] e[0me[33msystemd[1]e[0m: systemd 241 running in system mode. (+PAM +AUDIT +SELINUX +IMA +APPARMOR +SMACK +SYSVINIT +UTMP +LIBCRYPTSETUP +GCRYPT +GNUTLS +ACL +XZ +LZ4 +SECCOMP +BLKID +ELFUTILS +KMOD -IDN2 +IDN -PCRE2 default-hierarchy=hybrid)
e[32m[ 2.559640] e[0me[33msystemd[1]e[0m: Detected architecture arm.
e[32m[ 2.621505] e[0me[33msystemd[1]e[0m: Set hostname to .
e[32m[ 3.065934] e[0me[33mrandome[0m: lvmconfig: uninitialized urandom read (4 bytes read)
e[32m[ 3.589336] e[0me[33msystemd[1]e[0m: /lib/systemd/system/smbd.service:9: PIDFile= references path below legacy directory /var/run/, updating /var/run/samba/smbd.pid → /run/samba/smbd.pid; please update the unit file accordingly.
e[32m[ 3.618262] e[0me[33msystemd[1]e[0m: /lib/systemd/system/nmbd.service:9: PIDFile= references path below legacy directory /var/run/, updating /var/run/samba/nmbd.pid → /run/samba/nmbd.pid; please update the unit file accordingly.
e[32m[ 3.696130] e[0me[33msystemd[1]e[0m: /lib/systemd/system/rpc-statd.service:13: PIDFile= references path below legacy directory /var/run/, updating /var/run/rpc.statd.pid → /run/rpc.statd.pid; please update the unit file accordingly.
e[32m[ 3.776046] e[0me[33mrandome[0m: systemd: uninitialized urandom read (16 bytes read)
e[32m[ 3.805496] e[0me[33mrandome[0m: systemd: uninitialized urandom read (16 bytes read)
e[32m[ 3.806244] e[0me[33msystemd[1]e[0m: Listening on Syslog Socket.
e[32m[ 3.807771] e[0me[33msystemd[1]e[0m: Listening on udev Control Socket.
e[32m[ 3.808513] e[0me[33msystemd[1]e[0m: Started Forward Password Requests to Wall Directory Watch.
e[32m[ 3.809242] e[0me[33msystemd[1]e[0m: Listening on initctl Compatibility Named Pipe.
e[32m[ 3.936696] e[0mInstalling knfsd (copyright © 1996 okir@monad.swb.de).
e[32m[ 4.561556] e[0me[33mEXT4-fs (mmcblk0p2)e[0m: re-mounted. Opts: (null)
e[32m[ 4.675966] e[0me[33msystemd-journald[147]e[0m: Received request to flush runtime journal from PID 1

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e[32m[ 5.291256] e[0mDriver for 1-wire Dallas network protocol.
e[32m[ 5.294689] e[0me[33mgpio-4 (onewire@0)e[0me[1m: enforced open drain please flag it properly in DT/ACPI DSDT/board filee[0m
e[32m[ 5.314006] e[0me[33mrpivid-mem feb00000.hevc-decodere[0m: rpivid-hevcmem initialised: Registers at 0xfeb00000 length 0x00010000
e[32m[ 5.314657] e[0me[33mrpivid-mem feb10000.rpivid-local-intce[0m: rpivid-intcmem initialised: Registers at 0xfeb10000 length 0x00001000
e[32m[ 5.315206] e[0me[33mrpivid-mem feb20000.h264-decodere[0m: rpivid-h264mem initialised: Registers at 0xfeb20000 length 0x00010000
e[32m[ 5.315759] e[0me[33mrpivid-mem feb30000.vp9-decodere[0m: rpivid-vp9mem initialised: Registers at 0xfeb30000 length 0x00010000
e[32m[ 5.389796] e[0me[33mvc_sm_cmae[0me[1m: module is from the staging directory, the quality is unknown, you have been warned.e[0m
e[32m[ 5.389800] e[0me[33mmce[0m: Linux media interface: v0.10
e[32m[ 5.391982] e[0me[33mbcm2835_vc_sm_cma_probee[0m: Videocore shared memory driver
e[32m[ 5.392006] e[0me[33m[vc_sm_connected_init]e[0m: start
e[32m[ 5.414182] e[0me[33m[vc_sm_connected_init]e[0m: installed successfully
e[32m[ 5.432844] e[0me[33msnd_bcm2835e[0me[1m: module is from the staging directory, the quality is unknown, you have been warned.e[0m
e[32m[ 5.471209] e[0me[33mvideodeve[0m: Linux video capture interface: v2.00
e[32m[ 5.473609] e[0me[33mbcm2835_audio bcm2835_audioe[0m: card created with 8 channels
e[32m[ 5.531316] e[0me[33mbcm2835_mmal_vchiqe[0me[1m: module is from the staging directory, the quality is unknown, you have been warned.e[0m
e[32m[ 5.533971] e[0me[33mbcm2835_mmal_vchiqe[0me[1m: module is from the staging directory, the quality is unknown, you have been warned.e[0m
e[32m[ 5.541217] e[0me[33mbcm2835_ispe[0me[1m: module is from the staging directory, the quality is unknown, you have been warned.e[0m
e[32m[ 5.543256] e[0me[33mbcm2835_v4l2e[0me[1m: module is from the staging directory, the quality is unknown, you have been warned.e[0m
e[32m[ 5.569474] e[0me[33mbcm2835-isp bcm2835-ispe[0m: Device node output[0] registered as /dev/video13
e[32m[ 5.569975] e[0me[33mbcm2835-isp bcm2835-ispe[0m: Device node capture[0] registered as /dev/video14
e[32m[ 5.570407] e[0me[33mbcm2835-isp bcm2835-ispe[0m: Device node capture[1] registered as /dev/video15
e[32m[ 5.570739] e[0me[33mbcm2835-isp bcm2835-ispe[0m: Device node stats[2] registered as /dev/video16
e[32m[ 5.570767] e[0me[33mbcm2835-isp bcm2835-ispe[0m: Register output node 0 with media controller
e[32m[ 5.570792] e[0me[33mbcm2835-isp bcm2835-ispe[0m: Register capture node 1 with media controller
e[32m[ 5.570814] e[0me[33mbcm2835-isp bcm2835-ispe[0m: Register capture node 2 with media controller
e[32m[ 5.570850] e[0me[33mbcm2835-isp bcm2835-ispe[0m: Register capture node 3 with media controller
e[32m[ 5.571028] e[0me[33mbcm2835-isp bcm2835-ispe[0m: Loaded V4L2 bcm2835-isp
e[32m[ 5.652578] e[0me[33mcfg80211e[0m: Loading compiled-in X.509 certificates for regulatory database
e[32m[ 5.743753] e[0me[33mbcmgenet fd580000.ethernete[0m: configuring instance for external RGMII (RX delay)
e[32m[ 5.744264] e[0me[33mbcmgenet fd580000.ethernet eth0e[0m: Link is Down
e[32m[ 5.791806] e[0me[33mcfg80211e[0m: Loaded X.509 cert ‘sforshee: 00b28ddf47aef9cea7’
e[32m[ 5.794357] e[0me[33mbcm2835_codece[0me[1m: module is from the staging directory, the quality is unknown, you have been warned.e[0m
e[32m[ 5.869509] e[0m[drm] Initialized v3d 1.0.0 20180419 for fec00000.v3d on minor 0
e[32m[ 5.879409] e[0me[1m[drm] No displays found. Consider forcing hotplug if HDMI is attachede[0m
e[32m[ 5.879538] e[0me[33mvc4-drm gpue[0m: bound fe600000.firmwarekms (ops vc4_fkms_ops [vc4])
e[32m[ 5.879996] e[0m[drm] Initialized vc4 0.0.0 20140616 for gpu on minor 1
e[32m[ 5.910976] e[0me[33mbrcmfmace[0m: F1 signature read @0x18000000=0x15264345
e[32m[ 5.924091] e[0me[33mbrcmfmace[0me[31m: brcmf_fw_alloc_request: using brcm/brcmfmac43455-sdio for chip BCM4345/6e[0m
e[32m[ 5.926115] e[0me[33musbcoree[0m: registered new interface driver brcmfmac
e[32m[ 5.931976] e[0me[33mbcm2835-codec bcm2835-codece[0m: Device registered as /dev/video10
e[32m[ 5.932025] e[0me[33mbcm2835-codec bcm2835-codece[0m: Loaded V4L2 decode
e[32m[ 5.956445] e[0me[33mbrcmfmac mmc1:0001:1e[0me[1m: Direct firmware load for brcm/brcmfmac43455-sdio.raspberrypi,4-model-b.txt failed with error -2e[0m
e[32m[ 5.957223] e[0me[33mbcm2835-codec bcm2835-codece[0m: Device registered as /dev/video11
e[32m[ 5.957269] e[0me[33mbcm2835-codec bcm2835-codece[0m: Loaded V4L2 encode
e[32m[ 5.977993] e[0me[33mbcm2835-codec bcm2835-codece[0m: Device registered as /dev/video12
e[32m[ 5.978075] e[0me[33mbcm2835-codec bcm2835-codece[0m: Loaded V4L2 isp
e[32m[ 6.194269] e[0me[33mbrcmfmace[0me[31m: brcmf_fw_alloc_request: using brcm/brcmfmac43455-sdio for chip BCM4345/6e[0m
e[32m[ 6.205913] e[0me[33mbrcmfmace[0me[31m: brcmf_c_preinit_dcmds: Firmware: BCM4345/6 wl0: Jan 4 2021 19:56:29 version 7.45.229 (617f1f5 CY) FWID 01-2dbd9d2ee[0m
e[32m[ 8.874054] e[0me[33mbcmgenet fd580000.ethernet eth0e[0m: Link is Up - 1Gbps/Full - flow control rx/tx
e[32m[ 8.874113] e[0me[33mIPv6e[0m: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
e[32m[ 10.151389] e[0me[33muart-pl011 fe201000.seriale[0m: no DMA platform data
e[32m[ 10.513999] e[0mAdding 102396k swap on /var/swap. Priority:-2 extents:1 across:102396k SSFS
e[32m[ 12.145908] e[0me[33mrandome[0m: crng init done
e[32m[ 12.145924] e[0me[33mrandome[0m: 7 urandom warning(s) missed due to ratelimiting
e[32m[ 12.682550] e[0me[33mNFSDe[0me[1m: Using UMH upcall client tracking operations.e[0m
e[32m[ 12.682574] e[0me[33mNFSDe[0m: starting 90-second grace period (net f0000089)
e[32m[ 17.153192] e[0me[33mBluetoothe[0m: Core ver 2.22
e[32m[ 17.153311] e[0me[33mNETe[0m: Registered protocol family 31
e[32m[ 17.153328] e[0me[33mBluetoothe[0m: HCI device and connection manager initialized
e[32m[ 17.153356] e[0me[33mBluetoothe[0m: HCI socket layer initialized
e[32m[ 17.153380] e[0me[33mBluetoothe[0m: L2CAP socket layer initialized
e[32m[ 17.153414] e[0me[33mBluetoothe[0m: SCO socket layer initialized
e[32m[ 17.164343] e[0me[33mBluetoothe[0m: HCI UART driver ver 2.3
e[32m[ 17.164367] e[0me[33mBluetoothe[0m: HCI UART protocol H4 registered
e[32m[ 17.164476] e[0me[33mBluetoothe[0m: HCI UART protocol Three-wire (H5) registered
e[32m[ 17.164793] e[0me[33mBluetoothe[0m: HCI UART protocol Broadcom registered
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e[32m[ 22.314265] e[0me[33musb 2-1e[0m: new SuperSpeed Gen 1 USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd
e[32m[ 22.345768] e[0me[33musb 2-1e[0m: New USB device found, idVendor=1058, idProduct=0a10, bcdDevice=81.36
e[32m[ 22.345790] e[0me[33musb 2-1e[0m: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=5
e[32m[ 22.345809] e[0me[33musb 2-1e[0m: Product: JMS56x Series
e[32m[ 22.345826] e[0me[33musb 2-1e[0m: Manufacturer: JMicron
e[32m[ 22.345843] e[0me[33musb 2-1e[0m: SerialNumber: 1234567890123
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e[32m[ 22.380165] e[0me[33mscsi 0:0:0:0e[0m: Direct-Access WDC WD20 SPZX-22UA7T0 8136 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
e[32m[ 22.383401] e[0me[33mscsi 0:0:0:1e[0m: Direct-Access WDC WD20 SPZX-22UA7T0 8136 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
e[32m[ 22.383510] e[0me[33msd 0:0:0:0e[0m: [sda] 3907029168 512-byte logical blocks: (2.00 TB/1.82 TiB)
e[32m[ 22.384099] e[0me[33msd 0:0:0:0e[0m: [sda] Write Protect is off
e[32m[ 22.384121] e[0me[33msd 0:0:0:0e[0m: [sda] Mode Sense: 67 00 10 08
e[32m[ 22.384688] e[0me[33msd 0:0:0:0e[0m: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, supports DPO and FUA
e[32m[ 22.385661] e[0me[33msd 0:0:0:0e[0m: [sda] Optimal transfer size 33553920 bytes
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e[32m[ 22.387114] e[0me[33msd 0:0:0:1e[0m: [sdb] Write Protect is off
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e[32m[ 22.387674] e[0me[33msd 0:0:0:1e[0m: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, supports DPO and FUA
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e[32m[ 22.513186] e[0me[33msd 0:0:0:0e[0m: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
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e[32m[ 22.657887] e[0me[33m sdae[0m: sda1
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e[32m[ 32.569632] e[0me[33mEXT4-fs (sda1)e[0m: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: user_xattr,usrjquota=aquota.user,grpjquota=aquota.group,jqfmt=vfsv0,acl
e[32m[ 94.993529] e[0me[33mEXT4-fs (sda1)e[0m: re-mounted. Opts: (null)
e[32m[ 95.747272] e[0me[33mEXT4-fs (sda1)e[0m: re-mounted. Opts: (null)
e]0;pi@minidlna: ~ae[01;32mpi@minidlnae[00m:e[01;34m~ $e[00m
e[Ke]0;pi@minidlna: ~ae[01;32mpi@minidlnae[00m:e[01;34m~ $e[00m

#11

this time only drives 2 and 4 came up with 1 and 3 missing.

#12

the idling based on hdparm does not work sufficient and reliable to me
since using that command the idling works flawless (proven by listening to HDDs noises)
I do not know how to query the recent value set by JMS561FwUpdate
I strongly suggest just to use it (and prove usage)

#13

[…] Also in OMV you can see the 3 drives connected to the SATA HAT and the one via USB3 device (external caddy). […]
on RPI 4b the two USB3 are connecting the 4b with HAT - there can’t be a USB3 device in an external caddy (only USB2)
could you share a photo of the devices

#14

indeed, dmesg is fully blank on that as like non existing
are you sure that USB lane was connected to HAT?

#15

It’s a USB3 caddy in a USB 2 slot. Its a Glotrends 2.5" dual bay raid enclosure. its just reporting its capabilities not what its running at.

The drives work fine, the raspberry pi works fine, and the issue is intermient when i run them though the SATAhat.

My drives do go in to idle mode.

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#16

great, thank you
before I discovered and bought the SATA HAT I used to have my 2 HDDs in USB caddies as well
as the two HDDs draw a lot of current (especially on spin up), more than RPI support I tried to run them on an active USB3 hub
this did not work on USB3 lane, because of known strange behaviour of RPI 4b with active USB3 hubs (back feeding current)
it only worked with an active USB2(!) hub
facing that I luckily found SATA HAT to connect my HDDs in USB3

so for your setup
you have 4 HDDs on SATA HAT and 2 further more in an active USB3 hub
based on experience other and I made with active USB3 hub on RPI 4b
“Backpowering” https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/power/README.md
I suggest to further test without everything except the SATA HAT and leave both USB2 connectors unconnected

#17

No that is not what i have at all. have you read the provious comments? You asked me to show the drive working in a caddy which i have done as you questioned in. Also it woudl not be possible to run extra drives in a active USB3 hubs as the pi only has USB free with the HAT attached and no where have i ever said i was running a hub?! If you read i said the extrnal cady works fine with out external power, the back powering issues are well known.

[…] all work find in a single disk USB caddy […]
this is not expected by me, could you post a picture of that

then you question it was detected as USB3

[…] Also in OMV you can see the 3 drives connected to the SATA HAT and the one via USB3 device (external caddy). […]
on RPI 4b the two USB3 are connecting the 4b with HAT - there can’t be a USB3 device in an external caddy (only USB2)
could you share a photo of the devices

By default i run this with out any other drives attached, just 4 drives in the HAT, running from the 12v 5amp supply that came with the SATA HAT. the only reason i had it pluged in was becasue you asked for it to “prove it was working”

Sorry but all this is basic testing steps that have been completed many times.

4 drives connected to the hat, nothing else, 60W power supply powering it all = random drives missing.
thats the symptoms.
also
3 drives connected to the HAT nothing else = random drives missing.

#18

… gave me the indication that it happen(ed) you ran it with external power …
but
I did not asked for running in a caddy and moreover I ask to run all 4 in SATA HAT alone (the picture already indicate 4(!) in HAT plus caddy).

Anyway - you state you ran recently HAT only.
If the posted dmesg is exactly related to that situation HAT only, no USB2 devices
It shows absolutely no indication on second JMS controler(!)
and as you said if you power off/on the result will be different
then it is likely that your RPI4 (maybe you have second?) or HAT is broken.

#19

I’m having this strange behavior where OMV only shows two drives (sdc; sdd) in the Disk tab but the in the File Systems all file systems are there. If try to access them using the command line they all are there and are mounted.
When the Files Systems tells that a drive is not available, some times helps disconect and reconnect the USB bridge

#20

Did you made these changes?
Dual Quad SATA HAT - Radxa Wiki - NAS support(optional)

If you upgraded your firmware under Windows check the VendorID and ProductID (they changed I guess) with lsusb and replace them in the line what you have to add to the rules.