Armbian images are now available for Rock 5b!

If you use Ethernet it will connect to the network automatically. If not, you can always use the script in /boot/ to set the WiFi ssid and pass.

i’m a real noob with these things so after the whole afternoon trying to getit working i think it’s done
the brand new emmc>usd adapter was not working so i flashed a couple sd cards with 4 different OS that didn’t work also tried 2 power supplies each time i changed something leds changed the blinking pattern(is there a led code chart?)

finally what worked for me was flashing the emmc directly through RKDevtool with DietPi and using this PD power supply> aliexpress.com/item/1005002768872162.html

ran the benchmark / stress test for 1min and it resisted no reboots
seems like my board is the fastest one around on https://dietpi.com/survey/ lol

Indeed this looks like a good PS. PD is broken enough that I gave up on it long time ago and just run it using a dumb 12 volt power supply. As for the eMMC to microsd, you need the oldest SD adapter you can find (a USB 2.0 will most likely work). Dietpi is a nice system but you won’t have a good time trying to use it with a desktop, or enabling any GPU acceleration - it’s more for server stuff (but I assume that’s what you want).

damn i thought you could add desktop stuff down the road, there’s no GPU on acceleration on Debian yet?

the adapter I’d gotten from radxa with rock5 board last year but it sat unused should’ve tested before

the power supply is good did a bunch of light server stuff yesterday for a few hours without apparent issues, also installed netdata to get more stats but the real test will do this week after installing klipper/mainsail and configuring the printers

You can add a desktop but you will have a bad time trying to figure out how to enable the GPU acceleration (you need to use a fork of mesa Panfrost, so-called “Panfork”). It’s the easiest to do on a jammy system because there is a ppa. In principle it can also be done on Debian as well, but I doubt DietPi offers an easy way to do this.

Download Armbian and it will work.

If you would ever look how its hacked together, you would never run it.

do tell more what is so bad about it, i thought honestly it’s the best arm os I’ve seen

@Vinicius agree with you from a user experience point of view. dietpi has never let me down so far. I use it across different boards (radxa’s rockpis, rockpi4c, rockpi5, rasp pi4, orange pi5). Believe they build they layer on top of armbian. (So credit cetainly goes to armbian for doing all the heavy lifting.)

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Yes.

Dietpi is a single person developed and never reviewed bash scripts on top of some OS, mainly Armbian. Others are making OS, dietpi downloads and adds their brand and collection of junk. They contributes nothing to stability whatsoever … but why I am wasting my time?

Can you understand this reasoning?

Not saying I am better, but have few decades of dealing with this and a decade in open source. I read few hundred of books and am old enough. Not the most stupid, but also not the smartest on the planet. But this is anyway not about me.

Point of open source software is exchange and common work Their work is impossible to use as its pointless and terrible quality. In let say 10.000 hours Armbian developers and supportive community lost yearly for maintaining firmware they only download, brand with useless user-land changes and ship, they contributed perhaps 15 minutes into resolving a [banal trivial common problem as such].(https://github.com/armbian/build/pull/5930/commits/10396645064d2dc77e04f7cee0d4d58ec833e672).

Dietpi is permanent reminder:
“The worst-case scenario is that you give the maintainers an opportunity to reconsider if continuing to work on the open source project is worth it.”

Oh no a wild @igorp appears, now the discussion shifts to why Armbian is superior to anything else (tbh I to me Armbian right now is the second best on Rock5, behind Joshua Riek’s Ubuntu - but again it depends on the use case).

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Even you are not a developer, you can assemble your own distro. There are many tools out there - Armbian made even super easy tools for that.

This is a myth. Every distribution has a light variant, where “nothing” is preinstalled. I am not saying application installer is not looking cool, but that’s not OS.

Its Armbian or Debian with application installer.

Not at all. Just saying that copy of Armbian is the same as Armbian. Or worse if bloatware is added.

If you’d like to talk about bloatware, I never asked for codium being installed by default on Armbian, as well as many other dispensable applications. But it’s easier to point out something wrong with others than to look at yourself.

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This is pretty subjective. I don’t think “One size fits it all” exists in Linux? :slight_smile: Do you?

Start with super light minimal image (which is much lighter then previously mentioned super light OS) and build on top of that? Or use framework and generate your custom image. Both options should work good.

BTW: bloatware Codium can be safely uninstalled. I would bet also pretty clean. Try to do that with dietpi bloatware.

Wait, again???

I guess this thread will get closed next, like the last one with igor

For love of the Cake

And what next? Are they requirement payment for this? Are they not honest enough regarding using armbian as a base? Are they FORKING open source project to add something and they provide their own link for donation?

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HW customer’s, some players and end users of best effort supported software aggression towards open source developers is constantly present. Listen to yourself, sometimes, and you are not alone. I even understand you. Most of vendors support forums are mixed with bad emotions but FOSS developers are not responsible for it. We are helping you, problem is how you interpret this help and what you do that we don’t feel like criminals: “Community work offenders do unpaid work in the community to pay something back for the offence they have committed.”

If most of their users think like @Vinicius “it’s the best arm os I’ve seen”, they are doing pretty sloopy job in teaching consumers who is responsible for what and what they actually do. This grey area can be small or big. Here is very big. Stealing (from you too) that value is one, trying also to steal support and encouraging their users to press on people, they are stealing from, is totally different level. Leaning to exploit someone else extremely scarce resources to profit.

To not repeat myself. Here https://forum.armbian.com/topic/30677-usb-port-not-working-since-last-kernel-update/ you can see case in practice. Answer for all of you, including @kolsi in case he missed it when his problem will be paid by our family budgets and addressed.

Nobody requires anything from you, you decide what you do, if you don’t do something there are no repercussions. You don’t need to use your “family budget” for anything. People will still use Armbian and its derivatives that you hate. Just deal with it and please stop with this drama.

As for bloatware, its definition - from a dictionary is “(computing) Unwanted pre-installed software, especially on a smartphone.”

So the fact that you can uninstall it cleanly doesn’t make it not bloatware. And for dietpi, what you call “bloatware” is actually what I consciously decide to use, which makes it not “unwanted”, so not bloatware. And yes I know it’s written in bash but the thing that matters to me is that it works and makes my life easier when I want to run a server. This is what users care about.

Thunderbird preinstalled on Ubuntu is bloatware too, as another example.

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I know. Its a group that is having those problems. FYI, theory what applying pressure and blackmailing can do: https://www.google.com/search?q=How+does+pressure+affect+decisions You can persuade people to do things against their will if you apply pressure … and that is what frustrated end user does every day to developers. Again I totally understand this frustration. I use software too and its not a nice feeling when things doesn’t run as you would expect. But hey, its free, you obviously don’t support development and people who are selling you this, also not. This means its probably bad to complain to them to burn their private time ( = family budget) for your problems.

Pressure certainly has an impact on human beings, just the question is which direction things goes?

Stop using open source software? Download sources and tell us how you fix something for all of us? Until then, we will need to find a way how to live together.

Their app installer is not a base for any complains. But it is still unwanted part, perhaps not for you, so use it. For m, its a bloatware. I don’t need / want replacement for well made system scripts with a art inspired variant. Scripts are more or less single person made and were never reviewed. Do whatever you want with your computer …

Users don’t care. This is obvious and well known.

We are using few Rock 5b in production, modern kernel. Works, but PD is broken on hardware level. Dunno what this means from revision from revision, perhaps random act. If there is a technical advantage that is not implemented, then we need to stop resolving common problems anyway and come out with a better product. I agree with you. Thank you for reminding me.

I just want @Googulator to know I have 304 days of uptime on the midstream Kernel and I have been using that system to build all my armbian images the past year.

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