After apt upgrade the screen gui doesnt start

Endian · February 28, 2023, 8:05pm

The original debian image works well but after apt update / apt upgrade the screen no longer gets any signal.

I see this in the .xsessions-errors file

xfce4-session-Message: 14:29:34.752: SSH authentication agent is already running
gpg-agent: a gpg-agent is already running - not starting a new one
libGL error: failed to create dri screen
libGL error: failed to load driver: rockchip
libGL error: failed to create dri screen
libGL error: failed to load driver: rockchip

(xfwm4:950): xfwm4-WARNING **: 14:29:36.799: Unsupported GL renderer (llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.1, 128 bits)).

** (xfdesktop:992): WARNING **: 14:29:38.099: Thumbnailer failed calling GetFlavors

Could this cause my black screen?

incognito · February 28, 2023, 11:20pm

It would be nice if Radxa finally released a distro with an updated freaking certificate so that people stop asking the same question every day

The cause of your issue is that Radxa did not care enough to keep a certificate in a release up to date (literally a 5 minute fix) and your upgrade did not complete. You can find how to get the certificate in other topics

Endian · March 1, 2023, 12:55pm

I did fix the certificate problem with apt.radxa.com so that all steps of the apt update was passing, so I unfortunately do not see that that could be my issue.

Endian · March 1, 2023, 4:58pm

I was using a rather old screen using a dvi to hdmi adapter, and now i tested with a newer screen and it lights up.

Perhaps the default screen frequency was increased after the debian update and the old screen couldnt handle it

incognito · March 1, 2023, 7:24pm

Ah yes, I guess people also had trouble with HDMI to DVI. Which, also, should not be happening in principle (and even worse if they break working displays)…

ac8085 · March 1, 2023, 10:20pm

No, the problem is present also with HDMI to HDMI.

Endian · March 4, 2023, 4:56pm

I have now tested the following

Radxa debian build from 2022-10 with kernel 5.10.66 first boot - Screen is ok
Radxa debian build from 2022-10 with kernel 5.10.110 after apt update && apt upgrade - Screen is black
Armbian build 22.11.1 Debian with kernel 5.10.72 - Screen is ok
Armbian build 22.11.1 Jammy with kernel 5.10.72 - Screen is ok
Armbian build 22.11.2 Jammy with kernel 5.10.110 - Screen is black

To me it looks like something has become worse between kernel versions 5.10.72 1nd 5.10.110
I can also send armbian-hardware-monitor.log or other log files from the different boot scenarios if that helps.

The screen is capable of 1920x1080

Endian · March 6, 2023, 11:52am

I just noticed that if I boot up Ubuntu with two screens, the GUI thinks that the two screens are connected, but my older Benq screen is still black.

I can change the resolution of it but no matter which resolution I select, it is still black.
The primary screen (Dell 2722) works fine.

ac8085 · March 6, 2023, 12:56pm

The same for ubuntu also for me, the same with last armbian also for me.
As you I think this is a software problem and not PD problem as someone tells; the system is up and running, no boot loop, the ssh is working and the ping is stable.
I bought two PD, one ugreen (65W), one samsung (45W) suggested by someone, and no way with both

Endian · March 6, 2023, 2:18pm

You’re right. This is not related to the power PD issue.

I’m running on a 100 W USB-PD unit now and since I started with that no reboots.
45W sould also be ok. I have measured the power and it rarely goes over 8-9W when I have checked, but with a 10W USB-PD unit it rebooted frequently.
I seem to be lucky enough that my unit works ok with USB-PD power.

ac8085 · March 6, 2023, 6:35pm

I cannot understand how other people do not track this issue, I have 3 PD, same results (one of them is the official one).

Endian · March 7, 2023, 8:24am

They are probably lucky enough that their screens happen to work despite this bug.

It’ll be interesting if we find out what is the difference between working screens and non-working screens when it’s been found.

Endian · March 7, 2023, 9:19am

@ac8085 do you have another screen or a TV that you have tried with?

ac8085 · March 7, 2023, 11:44pm

no I haven’t, I have only a classic asus hdmi monitor 1080p
but as I wrote before I’m pretty sure that the hardware is not the problem

Endian · March 8, 2023, 8:22am

No your screen is fine.

As I mentioned earler I have a screen that works just fine with 5.10.66 and 5.10.72 based builds, but I have not been able to get it to light up with any 5.10.110 based build (Armbian, Debian, or other sources).
I can even see that the EDID negotiation works ok in one of the log files (dont have the name in front of me now) if I ssh into the computer or use a second screen.

My newer Dell screen works with all the 5.10 based kernels I’ve tried, but not with any 6.x kernels.

ac8085 · March 10, 2023, 10:45pm

I think that this is unacceptable, it cannot be reduced to a matter of luck.

Endian · March 11, 2023, 9:16am

Here is the output from xrandr --verbose with my two screens connected.

HDMI-1 is the screen thats always black, and HDMI-2 is working.

xrandr --verbose
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 4480 x 1440, maximum 16384 x 16384
HDMI-1 connected primary 1920x1080+2560+0 (0x49) normal (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 477mm x 268mm
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	Timestamp:  373031
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	Brightness: 1.0
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	CRTCs:      0
	Transform:  1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
	            0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
	            0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
	           filter: 
	EDID: 
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		range: (0, 100)
	saturation: 50 
		range: (0, 100)
	contrast: 50 
		range: (0, 100)
	brightness: 50 
		range: (0, 100)
	Colorspace: Default 
		supported: Default, SMPTE_170M_YCC, BT709_YCC, XVYCC_601, XVYCC_709, SYCC_601, opYCC_601, opRGB, BT2020_CYCC, BT2020_RGB, BT2020_YCC, DCI-P3_RGB_D65, DCI-P3_RGB_Theater
	output_type_capacity: DVI 
		supported: DVI, HDMI
	output_hdmi_dvi: auto 
		supported: auto, force_hdmi, force_dvi
	allm_enable: disable 
		supported: disable, enable
	allm_capacity: 0 
		range: (0, 1)
	USER_SPLIT_MODE: 0 
		range: (0, 1)
	color_format_caps: 1 
		range: (0, 15)
	color_depth_caps: 1 
		range: (0, 255)
	color_format: ycbcr444 
		supported: rgb, ycbcr444, ycbcr422, ycbcr420, ycbcr_high_subsampling, ycbcr_low_subsampling, invalid_output
	color_depth: 24bit 
		supported: Automatic, 24bit, 30bit
	link-status: Good 
		supported: Good, Bad
	CONNECTOR_ID: 197 
		supported: 197
	non-desktop: 0 
		range: (0, 1)
  1920x1080 (0x49) 148.500MHz +HSync +VSync *current +preferred
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        v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1089 total 1125           clock  60.00Hz
  1680x1050 (0x556) 119.000MHz +HSync -VSync
        h: width  1680 start 1728 end 1760 total 1840 skew    0 clock  64.67KHz
        v: height 1050 start 1053 end 1059 total 1080           clock  59.88Hz
  1600x900 (0x557) 108.000MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1600 start 1624 end 1704 total 1800 skew    0 clock  60.00KHz
        v: height  900 start  901 end  904 total 1000           clock  60.00Hz
  1280x1024 (0x50) 135.000MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1280 start 1296 end 1440 total 1688 skew    0 clock  79.98KHz
        v: height 1024 start 1025 end 1028 total 1066           clock  75.02Hz
  1280x1024 (0x51) 108.000MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1280 start 1328 end 1440 total 1688 skew    0 clock  63.98KHz
        v: height 1024 start 1025 end 1028 total 1066           clock  60.02Hz
  1280x960 (0x558) 108.000MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1280 start 1376 end 1488 total 1800 skew    0 clock  60.00KHz
        v: height  960 start  961 end  964 total 1000           clock  60.00Hz
  1152x864 (0x52) 108.000MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1152 start 1216 end 1344 total 1600 skew    0 clock  67.50KHz
        v: height  864 start  865 end  868 total  900           clock  75.00Hz
  1280x720 (0x53) 74.250MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1280 start 1390 end 1430 total 1650 skew    0 clock  45.00KHz
        v: height  720 start  725 end  730 total  750           clock  60.00Hz
  1024x768 (0x56) 78.750MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1024 start 1040 end 1136 total 1312 skew    0 clock  60.02KHz
        v: height  768 start  769 end  772 total  800           clock  75.03Hz
  1024x768 (0x57) 65.000MHz -HSync -VSync
        h: width  1024 start 1048 end 1184 total 1344 skew    0 clock  48.36KHz
        v: height  768 start  771 end  777 total  806           clock  60.00Hz
  832x624 (0x559) 57.284MHz -HSync -VSync
        h: width   832 start  864 end  928 total 1152 skew    0 clock  49.73KHz
        v: height  624 start  625 end  628 total  667           clock  74.55Hz
  800x600 (0x58) 49.500MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width   800 start  816 end  896 total 1056 skew    0 clock  46.88KHz
        v: height  600 start  601 end  604 total  625           clock  75.00Hz
  800x600 (0x59) 40.000MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width   800 start  840 end  968 total 1056 skew    0 clock  37.88KHz
        v: height  600 start  601 end  605 total  628           clock  60.32Hz
  640x480 (0x60) 31.500MHz -HSync -VSync
        h: width   640 start  656 end  720 total  840 skew    0 clock  37.50KHz
        v: height  480 start  481 end  484 total  500           clock  75.00Hz
  640x480 (0x62) 25.175MHz -HSync -VSync
        h: width   640 start  656 end  752 total  800 skew    0 clock  31.47KHz
        v: height  480 start  490 end  492 total  525           clock  59.94Hz
  720x400 (0x63) 28.320MHz -HSync +VSync
        h: width   720 start  738 end  846 total  900 skew    0 clock  31.47KHz
        v: height  400 start  412 end  414 total  449           clock  70.08Hz
HDMI-2 connected 2560x1440+0+0 (0x46) normal (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 597mm x 336mm
	Identifier: 0x43
	Timestamp:  373031
	Subpixel:   unknown
	Gamma:      1.0:1.0:1.0
	Brightness: 1.0
	Clones:    
	CRTC:       1
	CRTCs:      1
	Transform:  1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
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	            0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
	           filter: 
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	saturation: 50 
		range: (0, 100)
	contrast: 50 
		range: (0, 100)
	brightness: 50 
		range: (0, 100)
	Colorspace: Default 
		supported: Default, SMPTE_170M_YCC, BT709_YCC, XVYCC_601, XVYCC_709, SYCC_601, opYCC_601, opRGB, BT2020_CYCC, BT2020_RGB, BT2020_YCC, DCI-P3_RGB_D65, DCI-P3_RGB_Theater
	output_type_capacity: HDMI 
		supported: DVI, HDMI
	output_hdmi_dvi: auto 
		supported: auto, force_hdmi, force_dvi
	allm_enable: disable 
		supported: disable, enable
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		range: (0, 1)
	USER_SPLIT_MODE: 0 
		range: (0, 1)
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		range: (0, 15)
	color_depth_caps: 7 
		range: (0, 255)
	color_format: ycbcr444 
		supported: rgb, ycbcr444, ycbcr422, ycbcr420, ycbcr_high_subsampling, ycbcr_low_subsampling, invalid_output
	color_depth: 24bit 
		supported: Automatic, 24bit, 30bit
	link-status: Good 
		supported: Good, Bad
	CONNECTOR_ID: 211 
		supported: 211
	non-desktop: 0 
		range: (0, 1)
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        h: width  2560 start 2608 end 2640 total 2720 skew    0 clock  88.79KHz
        v: height 1440 start 1443 end 1448 total 1481           clock  59.95Hz
  2048x1080 (0x47) 147.180MHz +HSync -VSync
        h: width  2048 start 2096 end 2128 total 2208 skew    0 clock  66.66KHz
        v: height 1080 start 1083 end 1093 total 1111           clock  60.00Hz
  2048x1080 (0x48) 58.230MHz +HSync -VSync
        h: width  2048 start 2096 end 2128 total 2208 skew    0 clock  26.37KHz
        v: height 1080 start 1083 end 1093 total 1099           clock  24.00Hz
  1920x1080 (0x49) 148.500MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1920 start 2008 end 2052 total 2200 skew    0 clock  67.50KHz
        v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1089 total 1125           clock  60.00Hz
  1920x1080 (0x4a) 148.500MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1920 start 2448 end 2492 total 2640 skew    0 clock  56.25KHz
        v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1089 total 1125           clock  50.00Hz
  1920x1080 (0x4b) 148.352MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1920 start 2008 end 2052 total 2200 skew    0 clock  67.43KHz
        v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1089 total 1125           clock  59.94Hz
  1920x1080i (0x4c) 74.250MHz +HSync +VSync Interlace
        h: width  1920 start 2008 end 2052 total 2200 skew    0 clock  33.75KHz
        v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1094 total 1125           clock  60.00Hz
  1920x1080i (0x4d) 74.250MHz +HSync +VSync Interlace
        h: width  1920 start 2448 end 2492 total 2640 skew    0 clock  28.12KHz
        v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1094 total 1125           clock  50.00Hz
  1920x1080i (0x4e) 74.176MHz +HSync +VSync Interlace
        h: width  1920 start 2008 end 2052 total 2200 skew    0 clock  33.72KHz
        v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1094 total 1125           clock  59.94Hz
  1600x1200 (0x4f) 162.000MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1600 start 1664 end 1856 total 2160 skew    0 clock  75.00KHz
        v: height 1200 start 1201 end 1204 total 1250           clock  60.00Hz
  1280x1024 (0x50) 135.000MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1280 start 1296 end 1440 total 1688 skew    0 clock  79.98KHz
        v: height 1024 start 1025 end 1028 total 1066           clock  75.02Hz
  1280x1024 (0x51) 108.000MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1280 start 1328 end 1440 total 1688 skew    0 clock  63.98KHz
        v: height 1024 start 1025 end 1028 total 1066           clock  60.02Hz
  1152x864 (0x52) 108.000MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1152 start 1216 end 1344 total 1600 skew    0 clock  67.50KHz
        v: height  864 start  865 end  868 total  900           clock  75.00Hz
  1280x720 (0x53) 74.250MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1280 start 1390 end 1430 total 1650 skew    0 clock  45.00KHz
        v: height  720 start  725 end  730 total  750           clock  60.00Hz
  1280x720 (0x54) 74.250MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1280 start 1720 end 1760 total 1980 skew    0 clock  37.50KHz
        v: height  720 start  725 end  730 total  750           clock  50.00Hz
  1280x720 (0x55) 74.176MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1280 start 1390 end 1430 total 1650 skew    0 clock  44.96KHz
        v: height  720 start  725 end  730 total  750           clock  59.94Hz
  1024x768 (0x56) 78.750MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width  1024 start 1040 end 1136 total 1312 skew    0 clock  60.02KHz
        v: height  768 start  769 end  772 total  800           clock  75.03Hz
  1024x768 (0x57) 65.000MHz -HSync -VSync
        h: width  1024 start 1048 end 1184 total 1344 skew    0 clock  48.36KHz
        v: height  768 start  771 end  777 total  806           clock  60.00Hz
  800x600 (0x58) 49.500MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width   800 start  816 end  896 total 1056 skew    0 clock  46.88KHz
        v: height  600 start  601 end  604 total  625           clock  75.00Hz
  800x600 (0x59) 40.000MHz +HSync +VSync
        h: width   800 start  840 end  968 total 1056 skew    0 clock  37.88KHz
        v: height  600 start  601 end  605 total  628           clock  60.32Hz
  720x576 (0x5a) 27.000MHz -HSync -VSync
        h: width   720 start  732 end  796 total  864 skew    0 clock  31.25KHz
        v: height  576 start  581 end  586 total  625           clock  50.00Hz
  720x576i (0x5b) 13.500MHz -HSync -VSync Interlace
        h: width   720 start  732 end  795 total  864 skew    0 clock  15.62KHz
        v: height  576 start  580 end  586 total  625           clock  50.00Hz
  720x480 (0x5c) 27.027MHz -HSync -VSync
        h: width   720 start  736 end  798 total  858 skew    0 clock  31.50KHz
        v: height  480 start  489 end  495 total  525           clock  60.00Hz
  720x480 (0x5d) 27.000MHz -HSync -VSync
        h: width   720 start  736 end  798 total  858 skew    0 clock  31.47KHz
        v: height  480 start  489 end  495 total  525           clock  59.94Hz
  720x480i (0x5e) 13.514MHz -HSync -VSync Interlace
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        v: height  480 start  488 end  494 total  525           clock  60.00Hz
  720x480i (0x5f) 13.500MHz -HSync -VSync Interlace
        h: width   720 start  739 end  801 total  858 skew    0 clock  15.73KHz
        v: height  480 start  488 end  494 total  525           clock  59.94Hz
  640x480 (0x60) 31.500MHz -HSync -VSync
        h: width   640 start  656 end  720 total  840 skew    0 clock  37.50KHz
        v: height  480 start  481 end  484 total  500           clock  75.00Hz
  640x480 (0x61) 25.200MHz -HSync -VSync
        h: width   640 start  656 end  752 total  800 skew    0 clock  31.50KHz
        v: height  480 start  490 end  492 total  525           clock  60.00Hz
  640x480 (0x62) 25.175MHz -HSync -VSync
        h: width   640 start  656 end  752 total  800 skew    0 clock  31.47KHz
        v: height  480 start  490 end  492 total  525           clock  59.94Hz
  720x400 (0x63) 28.320MHz -HSync +VSync
        h: width   720 start  738 end  846 total  900 skew    0 clock  31.47KHz
        v: height  400 start  412 end  414 total  449           clock  70.08Hz
DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
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	Timestamp:  373031
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	Clones:    
	CRTCs:      2
	Transform:  1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
	            0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
	            0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
	           filter: 
	hue: 50 
		range: (0, 100)
	saturation: 50 
		range: (0, 100)
	contrast: 50 
		range: (0, 100)
	brightness: 50 
		range: (0, 100)
	color_format_caps: 0 
		range: (0, 64)
	color_depth_caps: 1 
		range: (0, 256)
	color_format: rgb 
		supported: rgb, ycbcr444, ycbcr422, ycbcr420
	color_depth: Automatic 
		supported: Automatic, 18bit, 24bit, 30bit
	link-status: Good 
		supported: Good, Bad
	CONNECTOR_ID: 225 
		supported: 225
	non-desktop: 0 
		range: (0, 1)

Endian · March 11, 2023, 2:27pm

@ac8085 you can try this 6.2 build, it lights up both my screens.

https://github.com/armbian/os/releases/download/23.05.0.0070/Armbian_23.05.0.0070_Rock-5b_lunar_midstream_6.2.0-rc1_minimal.img.xz

William_Richter · March 12, 2023, 8:53pm

I’ve experienced the same video issues. First blaming on PS, I’ve tried several with no success. I tried the 23.05.0.0070 Armbian image, fails to boot, indicates a missing UUID. Same with the current 23.05.0.0078 image.

Seeing this thread, sounds similar. In my case, initial boot is fine in Armbian or Ubuntu server. Install Ubuntu desktop, no video, ssh is fine. I realized that the issue is not with X, happens in the initial apt update && apt upgrade. I usually don’t reboot after that, just install the desktop.

I am running a 1650x1080 monitor, I have 2 Dell (228, 2210), same result. I try on my 2k desktop monitor, same results.I’ve seen another thread that for 2k monitor support, must generate a template. Indications are 1920x1200 is the same. I will roll back to Ubuntu server and give that a try. Unfortunately, I don’t have a 1080p monitor unless I “borrow” my wife or daughter’s monitors. They would not be pleased. I can see the monitor detection and supported mode list, just can’t “light up”.

Puzzled by this issue, I’ve used Rasbian and Ubuntu for years on Raspberry Pi. Other than the occasional config file change, never a monitor detection issue. Starting with Ubuntu server then loading a desktop has been my daily driver for decades, just works. Even if after a drive failure, I decided to go with a very glitchy Ubuntu 22.04.0 rev. A few days to work out kinks, after 22.04.2, a rock. Never used a Mali GPU, something with the drivers??? That a console upgrade, pre-X11 is knocking out the display is unusual.

I’ve scripted many of the install steps. Comes from being an Automator by trader…

el_sattchmo · March 12, 2023, 9:13pm

I too have this exact issue, tried all the noob things to get it to work.
I have a 1650x1080 Dell monitor using HDMI to DVI-D, no issue at all then as soon as something is updated it all over. Android on it runs fine.