Ubuntu 20.02 & Mali Drivers

@icecream95 are the cpu calcs for cpu and not neon as we can test that also.
GpuAcc = Gpu, CpuAcc = Really is Neon, CpuRef = Cpu

I slept and had a look at the code and thought it would be easy.
It processes all audio into an array 1st so you may think has froze and then just runs the model.

python3 run_audio_file.py --audio_file_path samples/hp0.wav --model_file_path tflite_int8/wav2letter_int8.tflite --preferred_backends CpuAcc CpuRef

cpu seems to take approx 05.517623s and approx 45% load
gpu seems to take approx :06.291094 and approx 5% cpu load 75% gpu load

That is with a hacky python script feeding it but now very little in the inference loop.
There is some overhead of armnn and opencl but this is exactly what I wanted to check.
The rk3588 really is a power house for ml as its Mali mp4 is almost a perfect match for CPU
So we can run 2x models that are approx 2x the load of current and would be interesting to see how the mali also reacts with bigger models.

I had a go with tensorflow TTS as its a much heavier load but working out how to slot in armnn and the quantisation specifics is going to be bigger dev chore than what the above can demo.

# Copyright © 2021 Arm Ltd and Contributors. All rights reserved.
# SPDX-License-Identifier: MIT

"""Automatic speech recognition with PyArmNN demo for processing audio clips to text."""

import sys
import os
import numpy as np
import psutil
import soundfile as sf
script_dir = os.path.dirname(__file__)
sys.path.insert(1, os.path.join(script_dir, '..', 'common'))

from argparse import ArgumentParser
from network_executor import ArmnnNetworkExecutor
from utils import prepare_input_data
from audio_capture import AudioCaptureParams, capture_audio
from audio_utils import decode_text, display_text
from wav2letter_mfcc import Wav2LetterMFCC, W2LAudioPreprocessor
from mfcc import MFCCParams
from datetime import datetime, timedelta

# Model Specific Labels
labels = {0: 'a', 1: 'b', 2: 'c', 3: 'd', 4: 'e', 5: 'f', 6: 'g', 7: 'h', 8: 'i', 9: 'j', 10: 'k', 11: 'l', 12: 'm',
          13: 'n',
          14: 'o', 15: 'p', 16: 'q', 17: 'r', 18: 's', 19: 't', 20: 'u', 21: 'v', 22: 'w', 23: 'x', 24: 'y',
          25: 'z',
          26: "'", 27: ' ', 28: '$'}


def time_float(result):
    seconds = int(result)
    microseconds = int((result * 1000000) % 1000000)
    output = timedelta(0, seconds, microseconds)
    return output

def parse_args():
    parser = ArgumentParser(description="ASR with PyArmNN")
    parser.add_argument(
        "--audio_file_path",
        required=True,
        type=str,
        help="Path to the audio file to perform ASR",
    )
    parser.add_argument(
        "--model_file_path",
        required=True,
        type=str,
        help="Path to ASR model to use",
    )
    parser.add_argument(
        "--preferred_backends",
        type=str,
        nargs="+",
        default=["GpuAcc", "CpuAcc", "CpuRef"],
        help="""List of backends in order of preference for optimizing
        subgraphs, falling back to the next backend in the list on unsupported
        layers. Defaults to [GpuAcc, CpuAcc, CpuRef]""",
    )
    return parser.parse_args()


def main(args, network, input_data):

    current_r_context = ""
    is_first_window = True
    avg_cpu = 0.0
    for input_chunk in input_data:
        # Run inference
        output_result = network.run([input_chunk])

        # Slice and Decode the text, and store the right context
        current_r_context, text = decode_text(is_first_window, labels, output_result)

        is_first_window = False

        display_text(text)
        runtime = datetime.now() - starttime
        print(" " + str(runtime))
        avg_cpu = avg_cpu + psutil.cpu_percent()

    print(current_r_context, flush=True)
    print("Inference End: Avg CPU%=" + str(avg_cpu / len(input_data)))
    return runtime

if __name__ == "__main__":
    args = parse_args()
    # Create the ArmNN inference runner
    network = ArmnnNetworkExecutor(args.model_file_path, args.preferred_backends)
    # Read command line args
    audio_file = args.audio_file_path
    sf_data, samplerate = sf.read(audio_file)
    sf_secs = time_float((len(sf_data) / samplerate))
    # Specify model specific audio data requirements
    audio_capture_params = AudioCaptureParams(dtype=np.float32, overlap=31712, min_samples=47712, sampling_freq=16000,
                                              mono=True)

    buffer = capture_audio(audio_file, audio_capture_params)
    # Extract features and create the preprocessor

    mfcc_params = MFCCParams(sampling_freq=16000, num_fbank_bins=128, mel_lo_freq=0, mel_hi_freq=8000,
                             num_mfcc_feats=13, frame_len=512, use_htk_method=False, n_fft=512)

    wmfcc = Wav2LetterMFCC(mfcc_params)
    preprocessor = W2LAudioPreprocessor(wmfcc, model_input_size=296, stride=160)   
    print("Processing Audio Frames...")
    input_data = []

    for audio_data in buffer:
        # Prepare the input Tensors
        input_data.append(prepare_input_data(audio_data, network.get_data_type(), network.get_input_quantization_scale(0),
                                        network.get_input_quantization_offset(0), preprocessor))
                                        
        
  
    
    starttime = datetime.now()
    runtime = main(args, network, input_data)
    print("Runtime=" + str(runtime))
    print("Realtime=x" + str(sf_secs / runtime))
    starttime = datetime.now()
    runtime = main(args, network, input_data)
    print("Runtime=" + str(runtime))
    print("Realtime=x" + str(sf_secs / runtime))
rock@rock-5b:~/workspace/armnn/python/pyarmnn/examples/speech_recognition$ python3 run_audio_file.py --audio_file_path samples/hp0.wav --model_file_path tflite_int8/wav2letter_int8.tflite --preferred_backends CpuAcc CpuRef
Your ArmNN library instance does not support Onnx models parser functionality.  Skipped IOnnxParser import.
Can't load libOpenCL.so: libOpenCL.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Can't load libGLES_mali.so: libGLES_mali.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
arm_release_ver of this libmali is 'g6p0-01eac0', rk_so_ver is '5'.
Preferred backends: ['CpuAcc', 'CpuRef']
IDeviceSpec { supportedBackends: [CpuAcc, CpuRef, GpuAcc]}
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The only overhead is there is some sort of load or processing with armnn & gpu as 2nd run always seems to be faster. Which actually for many models doesn’t matter as with code you could preload a trial run and just hold in memory.

rock@rock-5b:~/workspace/armnn/python/pyarmnn/examples/speech_recognition$ python3 run_audio_file.py --audio_file_path samples/hp0.wav --model_file_path tflite_int8/wav2letter_int8.tflite --preferred_backends GpuAcc CpuAcc CpuRef
Your ArmNN library instance does not support Onnx models parser functionality.  Skipped IOnnxParser import.
Can't load libOpenCL.so: libOpenCL.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Can't load libGLES_mali.so: libGLES_mali.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
arm_release_ver of this libmali is 'g6p0-01eac0', rk_so_ver is '5'.
Preferred backends: ['GpuAcc', 'CpuAcc', 'CpuRef']
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CpuRef runs on the calling core only and not going to wait for this to end :slightly_smiling_face:

rock@rock-5b:~/workspace/armnn/python/pyarmnn/examples/speech_recognition$ python3 run_audio_file.py --audio_file_path samples/hp0.wav --model_file_path tflite_int8/wav2letter_int8.tflite --preferred_backends CpuRef
Your ArmNN library instance does not support Onnx models parser functionality.  Skipped IOnnxParser import.
Can't load libOpenCL.so: libOpenCL.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Can't load libGLES_mali.so: libGLES_mali.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
arm_release_ver of this libmali is 'g6p0-01eac0', rk_so_ver is '5'.
Preferred backends: ['CpuRef']
IDeviceSpec { supportedBackends: [CpuAcc, CpuRef, GpuAcc]}
Optimization warnings: ()
Processing Audio Frames...
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Going back to Jammy & Wayland
With https://github.com/armbian/build/releases/download/22.11.0-trunk.0096/Armbian_22.11.0-trunk.0096_Rock-5b_jammy_legacy_5.10.72.img.xz
Plus current ppa still crashes and wondering if any updates on that? Still seems to be holding some packages back so maybe the ddr update is not in place.
@icecream95 If I build glmark2-es2-wayland and install it runs complete and ends with a Glmark2 Score 866
That is the normal like for like env I usually run glmark with no affinity or scheduler changes and less than I would hope for but hey it didn’t crash!
gg @icecream95 as things looking nearer

echo performance | sudo tee /sys/bus/cpu/devices/cpu[046]/cpufreq/scaling_governor /sys/class/devfreq/dmc/governor

1764

Bad bash script time

#!/bin/bash
glmark2-es2-wayland&
while :
do
        LOAD=$(cat /sys/devices/platform/fb000000.gpu/utilisation)
        echo "Current Load:"$LOAD
        TOTAL=$((TOTAL+LOAD))
        COUNT=$((COUNT+1))
        echo "Avg Load:"$((TOTAL/COUNT))
        sleep 1
done

Load on avg 41%

What crashes? How? When you do what? Does anything appear in dmesg, the console, or journalctl?

Yup, that’s about what’s expected. It will take some work to change the driver so that work can be done in parallel between the CPU and GPU. With CSF the kernel doesn’t help with doing that as much as it did previously.

I didn’t check that much as the repo glmark2-es2-wayland seems a catastrophic crash and locked up the wayland client.
I just compiled glmark2-es2-wayland with .waf and runs fine, so apols didn’t do any bug hunting as mostly used the Jammy Radxa image due to ArmNN as not sure if 22.04 is part of the repo (18.04/20.04 is)

The RK3588 is a low wattage powerhouse SBC for ML with the CPU & GPU and the 3rd option of the NPU that haven’t tried yet as not to optimistic about quite a few dmesg entries with the NPU.
With the amount of vendors and variations the rk3588 & rk3588s could become an extremely common platform.
Have you reached out to Alyssa and Mesa like Asahi Linya did with the M1 as a herd sharing and contributing to a mainline is likely going to be quicker and stronger than many all soloing?
In a perfect world Mfcc & Spectrogram 16Khz would be part of codecs and near load free but both Tensorflow & Pytorch have optimised C routines and strange why Arm opted for Python that can not be stressed how much it sucks for any DSP :slight_smile:
Many thanks for your time and input.

Starting with Armbian_22.11.0-trunk.0096_Rock-5b_jammy_legacy_5.10.72.img
My sort of legacy thing I do as a check its all there sudo apt-get update && upgrade sudo apt-get install software-properties-common apt-utils git cmake build-essential autotools-dev autoconf libtool pkg-config reboot
Get the csf bin to lib/firmware
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:liujianfeng1994/panfork-mesa
update/upgrade
sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop
reboot

Log in to wayland
sudo apt-get install glmark2-es2-wayland
glmark2-es2-wayland

This time runs no prob but before on 2x different try I got a total catastrophic lockup and decided to compile by waf myself.
Guess not waf but just a spurious crash.

Still get artefacts on the background image but always ignored that.

So dunno as tried it again expecting a crash and worked fine GLmark2 Score 872

On radxas debian, I cannot see mouse cursor on wayland gnome using @icecream95 's panfork, but the cursor is visible on KDE wayland(and weston), and I’m not seeing the graphic glitch that @stuartiannaylor is seeing on either desktop. I compiled panfork myself.

KDE wayland is having performance issue using OpenGL based compositors, the desktop will hang from time to time, and back to normal after 1 second or 2, but XRender works just fine. Firefox is also having such hanging issue even on XRender compositor. However, Gnome does not have such performance issue at all, although I cannot see the cursor, firefox is very smooth.

Weston works perfectly, performance is good, cursor is visible, just Weston itself is not so user-friendly and I don’t want to use it every day.

X11 works fine on both KDE and Gnome, although less performant than wayland on my 4K60 displays and I can see frame drops, but at least it does not have serious bugs that affects normal usage.

There is one thing that I’m using the mali_csffw.bin come with radxas debian, not the one in JeffyCN’s repo.

mali_csffw.bin didn’t know there was a diff as using JeffyCN’s repo.

The Radxas version seems to be an older version than the Jeff’s Repo ones, and I’m have some problems with Jeff’s in early days of testing so I used Radxas one.

I don’t know to be honest as a bit confused by it all as not really my thing.
I am not sure where the source is for either or how they come into existence :slight_smile:
Using Jammy server from armbian with JeffyCn’s csffw and icecreams ppa with a sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop.
The background glitch is weird as it only seems to happen on the background and no where else, haven’t used it much but everything else seems to work and new windows don’t have similar glitches.
So I have always just ignored it.

It was purely curiosity to the performance as the mali seems to be only put under approx 40% load by what I presume is the gles driver whilst playing with ml and using openCl that can avg around 75% load on the mali.
I just thought Wayland might be more performant

OpenGL ES GPU pipelining
OpenGL ES exposes a synchronous rendering model to the application developer, despite
the underlying execution being asynchronous, whereas Vulkan exposes this
asynchronous nature directly to the application developer to manage. In either case it is
important that the application keeps the GPU fed with work, avoiding behaviors which
drain the pipeline and starve the GPU of work (unless the desired target frame rate has
been reached, of course).
Keeping the GPU busy not only means that you will get the best rendering performance
from the platform, but also that you avoid hitting performance oscillations caused by the
platform dynamic voltage and frequency scaling (DVFS) logic thinking that the CPU or
GPU is under-utilized.
Do
▪ Do not let the GPU go idle unless the target performance is reached.
▪ Pipeline any use of fences and query objects; don't wait on them too early.
▪ Use GL_MAP_UNSYNCHRONIZED to allow use of glMapBufferRange() to patch a safe
region of a buffer which is still partially referenced by in-flight draw calls.
▪ Pipeline any glReadPixels() calls to read asynchronously into a pixel buffer object.
Don't
▪ Use operations which enforce the synchronous behavior of OpenGL ES:
▪ glFinish()
▪ Synchronous glReadPixels()
▪ glMapBufferRange() without GL_MAP_UNSYNCHRONIZED on buffer still referenced
by a draw call
▪ Use glMapBufferRange() with
either GL_MAP_INVALIDATE_RANGE or GL_MAP_INVALIDATE_BUFFER; due to a
historical specification ambiguity these flags will currently trigger the creation of a
resource ghost.
▪ Use glFlush() because this may force render passes to be split; the driver will flush as
needed.
Impact
▪ Pipeline draining will, at a minimum, result in a loss of performance as the GPU will
be partially idle for the duration of the bubble.
▪ Possible performance instability, depending on the interaction with the platform's
DVFS power management logic.
Debugging
▪ System profilers such as DS-5 Streamline can show both CPU and GPU activity.
Pipeline drains of this nature are normally clearly visible as periods of busy time
oscillating between the CPU and GPU, with neither being fully utilized.

As I thought X11 was forcing all those don’t of synchronous operation as from what @icecream95 said that seems to be the problem with no parallelism with gpu/cpu as one is waiting for the other?
I was purely trying to get a best rough bench so will have to leave it to you 2. Apols :slight_smile:

In the DTB it seems to be declared as bifrost which don’t have a CSF so yeah I am totally confused at state of play :slight_smile:

	gpu@fb000000 {
		compatible = "arm,mali-bifrost";
		reg = <0x00 0xfb000000 0x00 0x200000>;
		interrupts = <0x00 0x5e 0x04 0x00 0x5d 0x04 0x00 0x5c 0x04>;
		interrupt-names = "GPU\0MMU\0JOB";
		clocks = <0x0e 0x05 0x02 0x115 0x02 0x116 0x02 0x114>;
		clock-names = "clk_mali\0clk_gpu_coregroup\0clk_gpu_stacks\0clk_gpu";
		assigned-clocks = <0x0e 0x05>;
		assigned-clock-rates = <0xbebc200>;
		power-domains = <0x4e 0x0c>;
		operating-points-v2 = <0x4f>;
		#cooling-cells = <0x02>;
		dynamic-power-coefficient = <0xba6>;
		upthreshold = <0x1e>;
		downdifferential = <0x0a>;
		status = "okay";
		mali-supply = <0x50>;
		mem-supply = <0x50>;
		phandle = <0x4d>;
	};

I’ve been trying to debug that issue for a couple of days, but still don’t know how to fix it…

I don’t want to implement whatever hacks the blob is doing for Wayland, so improving the average GPU load will require some kernel changes. It’s still a while to get to that point, though.

The BSP kernel has three copies of Arm’s Mali kernel driver—one for Utgard (mali400), one for Midgard, and one for Bifrost (which also supports Valhall). Changes to the kernel driver for Valhall support went to the Bifrost source tree, so the GPU is marked compatible with the Bifrost kernel driver.

The Bifrost kernel and Valhall kernel downloads from Arm are identical.

From the kernel’s perspective, (pre-CSF, “Job Manager”) Valhall is more
or less compatible with Bifrost

Was it the 1st/2nd gen Valhall that didn’t have a CSF and that is what is completely missing and this has been a complete confusion to me as its a pretty big change but still keeps the same Architecture name that I guess should be identified as mali-csf ?

There seems less of a change between bifrost & the 1st/2nd gen Valhall that did get a name change then 3rd gen Valhall comes with a substantially different CSF that really is not incremental as other Valhall additions to bifrost have been but does keep a same architecture name ?!?

So yeah I am totally confused and yeah the Bifrost kernel and Valhall kernel prob are identical and why the MaliG610 with no CSF coordination is only achieving 40% load.
Also we are on this BSP kernel of 5.10 that is totally out of wack with Mesa so guess also you are having to heavily backport.

The man in the middle of the CSF between cpu irq and gpu and a queue that isn’t waiting for completion should have a kernel implementation I presume but currently is being hacked into the userspace?

I am going to have to leave it to you @icecream95 but I am not really sure about soloing this as surely the herd of Mesa and alyssa are needed to pool resources?

@stuartiannaylor @icecream95
Just curious, does HW video decoding work in any browser (e.g. FF or Chromium) with that Armbian+Mali driver combo under Wayland? I’m interested to give it a try soon.

The only one that would work probably is the custom chromium provided by rockchip. The one shipped with radxa debian does not support wayland but rockchip said that the wayland patch does exist and some customers are using that, probably Khadas is ?

I am not sure as was purely interested if the Wayland implementation helps with the current problems of balancing the cpu / gpu irq calls in the new command stream as would seem currently the Mali G610 is very underloaded as the parallelism doesn’t seem to exist at all so one is always waiting for the other and process seems serial.

Its @icecream95 who knows a huge amount as is prolific contributor and did much with OpenCL so is in a totally different league to me.

Put simplistically to what my limited brain can handle is the current drivers are a bit like the early Mali-FB-Dev drivers we had that did specific jobs but likely have loads of gotchas as it may not be plumbed into ’ VA-API’ which is how you get Chromium acceleration which I didn’t try. Its video accel really when browsing than 3d.

Because the Mali G610 is such a strong GPU currently for many the results are quite good, but really when looking at load we have a pretty terrible implementation.
I am sort of confused as the CSF & the third gen Valhall would seem a more significant change to its 1st&2nd gen Valhall are to the previous Bifrost they got a name change from.

cat /sys/devices/platform/fb000000.gpu/utilisation so to be honest until we get an optimised driver under the hood I haven’t even bothered testing Chromium.
The Mali is just a 3D Gpu and with video we also have hardware encoders to plumb in and again I am confused there as I thought a lot of work had been done on the state management of video encoder/decoder and the Hantro RKDec shared a lot of similarities but apparently not.

I think there might be considerable work needed on the Mali G610 driver and it could take some time but when using it with OpenCl load gets to 70% which might be near max due to the ArmNN & OpenCl layers using it in the above Wav2Letter example, but even that might even get more optimised.

I am not worthy or any where near the level of Icecream95 and was just curious to state of play and got loads of really great feedback. I am hoping some of the dmesg errors of the NPU get fixed so I can play with the NPU as not expecting anything imminent GPU wise.

I am also thinking this might be the fastest mainline adoption we will see due to the adoption of a large number of rk3588/rk3588s vendors and variations out there as really I would prefer to ditch the Rockchip BSP.

The architecture name changes when the machine code representation used by the shader cores change:

Utgard had separate vertex and fragment shading cores, Midgard was VLIW with three vector units and two scalar units, Bifrost was VLIW with two scalar units, and Valhall uses a simple stream of eight-byte instructions.

So even if the entire rest of the GPU changes, only the shader cores matter for architecture naming.

But even looking at GPU structures, the Valhall GPUs are all very similar to each other, apart from CSF. Bifrost is much closer to Midgard than it is to Valhall in that regard, but the entire fragment processing pipeline from rasterization to blending is almost unchanged for the different Valhall generations.

You know more than me but from past history and reading pretty sure Alyssa has mentioned Utgard->Midgard->Valhall was fairly incremental and that is it the CSF and implementation from what my lowly knowledge might be, seems to think that is less incremental and more of an architecture change than just additions.
Thats why we do have a working driver but still impeded due to no previous csf implmementation.

All CSF does is replace the old Job Manager frontend with the Command Stream Frontend, so rather than having job description structures statically allocated, they are built up by a command stream that is Turing complete. An MCU is added to make this work better.

So previously there was (very simplified, and not how the driver actually does things, and the pointers should be GPU pointers):

struct job {
    struct job *next;
};

struct vertex_job {
    struct job header;
    uint32_t num_vertices;
};

struct vertex_job my_vertex_jobs[] = {
    {
        .header.next = &my_vertex_jobs[1].header,
        .num_vertices = 3,
    },
    {
        .num_vertices = 10,
    },
};

and now we have (again, simplified and not how things actually work):

uint64_t commands[] = {
    CMD_MOV_32(NUM_VERTICES, 3),
    CMD_VERTEX_JOB,
    CMD_MOV_32(NUM_VERTICES, 10),
    CMD_VERTEX_JOB,
};

That is a big change, yes, and one that affects the driver a lot, but most of the rest of the GPU is unchanged, and I suspect that the old vertex_job struct still exists behind the scenes.

Even from the driver side, I have made CSF mostly look like the old way of doing things, so the same code can often be used for both non-CSF and CSF GPUs.

Apart from one bug that can affect programs drawing a lot of vertices (so far I’ve only hit this in one Xscreensaver demo), most of the current driver shortcomings can be blamed on kbase rather than CSF.

Yeah I don’t know how they will choose to implement it in the kernel and dunno maybe Allsya and Mesa have plans with the next gen Mali’s being the same and already out.
I presume the MCU can act like a very low latency asynchronous co-ordinator and queue and when employed we should see gpu loading of much more than the current 40%.
I presume the emulator and ‘gamers’ would be better on Android for a while as its already implemented but not opensource?
I actually ran Glmark2 on android and it gave a similar result but have no idea if the code base has any simularity as a bench.

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Thank you very much for your work and detailed explanations about the mali driver.

I have been testing mali driver 23.0~panfork~csf this week and have also encountered crashes. I run lightdm and kodi in h264 video mode, the system spontaneously reboots stably at the video transition and after watching the video for more than 30 minutes.

journalctl:

Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b pulseaudio[2161]: module-x11-xsmp may not be loaded twice.
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b pulseaudio[2161]: Failed to load module "module-x11-xsmp" (argument: "display=:0.0 xauthority=/home/konstantin/.Xauthority session_manager=local/rock-5b:@/tm>
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b NetworkManager[1755]: <info>  [1668925042.4153] agent-manager: agent[775a0eb26c9baa47,:1.68/org.freedesktop.nm-applet/1000]: agent registered
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b dbus-daemon[2181]: [session uid=1000 pid=2181] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.UDisks2VolumeMonitor' unit='gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor.serv>
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b systemd[2151]: Starting Virtual filesystem service - disk device monitor...
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b dbus-daemon[2181]: [session uid=1000 pid=2181] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.UDisks2VolumeMonitor'
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b systemd[2151]: Started Virtual filesystem service - disk device monitor.
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b dbus-daemon[2181]: [session uid=1000 pid=2181] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.MTPVolumeMonitor' unit='gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor.service' req>
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b systemd[2151]: Starting Virtual filesystem service - Media Transfer Protocol monitor...
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b CRON[1680]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b dbus-daemon[2181]: [session uid=1000 pid=2181] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.MTPVolumeMonitor'
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b systemd[2151]: Started Virtual filesystem service - Media Transfer Protocol monitor.
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b dbus-daemon[2181]: [session uid=1000 pid=2181] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.GPhoto2VolumeMonitor' unit='gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor.serv>
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b systemd[2151]: Starting Virtual filesystem service - digital camera monitor...
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b dbus-daemon[2181]: [session uid=1000 pid=2181] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.GPhoto2VolumeMonitor'
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b systemd[2151]: Started Virtual filesystem service - digital camera monitor.
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b dbus-daemon[2181]: [session uid=1000 pid=2181] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.AfcVolumeMonitor' unit='gvfs-afc-volume-monitor.service' req>
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b systemd[2151]: Starting Virtual filesystem service - Apple File Conduit monitor...
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b dbus-daemon[2181]: [session uid=1000 pid=2181] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.AfcVolumeMonitor'
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b systemd[2151]: Started Virtual filesystem service - Apple File Conduit monitor.
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b dbus-daemon[2181]: [session uid=1000 pid=2181] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.GoaVolumeMonitor' unit='gvfs-goa-volume-monitor.service' req>
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b systemd[2151]: Starting Virtual filesystem service - GNOME Online Accounts monitor...
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b dbus-daemon[2181]: [session uid=1000 pid=2181] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.GoaVolumeMonitor'
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b systemd[2151]: Started Virtual filesystem service - GNOME Online Accounts monitor.
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b dbus-daemon[2181]: [session uid=1000 pid=2181] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.thumbnails.Thumbnailer1'
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b systemd[2151]: Started Thumbnailing service.
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b dbus-daemon[2181]: [session uid=1000 pid=2181] Activating via systemd: service name='org.bluez.obex' unit='dbus-org.bluez.obex.service' requested by ':1.31' >
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b systemd[2151]: Starting Bluetooth OBEX service...
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b obexd[3022]: OBEX daemon 5.65
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b dbus-daemon[2181]: [session uid=1000 pid=2181] Successfully activated service 'org.bluez.obex'
Nov 20 11:17:22 rock-5b systemd[2151]: Started Bluetooth OBEX service.
Nov 20 11:17:23 rock-5b pulseaudio[2161]: ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write.
Nov 20 11:17:23 rock-5b pulseaudio[2161]: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver '(null)'. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers.
Nov 20 11:17:23 rock-5b pulseaudio[2161]: We were woken up with POLLOUT set -- however a subsequent snd_pcm_avail() returned 0 or another value < min_avail.
Nov 20 11:17:24 rock-5b kernel: Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
Nov 20 11:17:24 rock-5b kernel: Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
Nov 20 11:17:24 rock-5b kernel: Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11
Nov 20 11:17:26 rock-5b pkexec[3088]: pam_unix(polkit-1:session): session opened for user root(uid=0) by (uid=1000)
Nov 20 11:17:26 rock-5b pkexec[3088]: konstantin: Executing command [USER=root] [TTY=unknown] [CWD=/home/konstantin] [COMMAND=/usr/lib/update-notifier/package-system-locked]
Nov 20 11:17:26 rock-5b chronyd[1839]: Selected source 213.141.154.170 (1.ubuntu.pool.ntp.org)
Nov 20 11:17:26 rock-5b chronyd[1839]: System clock wrong by 26557.828622 seconds

The mali update has just arrived, I will continue to test further:

root@rock-5b:~# dpkg -l| grep -e panfork -e mesa
ii  libegl-mesa0:arm64                      23.0~panfork~csf~git221118.18db031~k     arm64        free implementation of the EGL API -- Mesa vendor library
ii  libgbm1:arm64                           23.0~panfork~csf~git221118.18db031~k     arm64        generic buffer management API -- runtime
ii  libgl1-mesa-dri:arm64                   23.0~panfork~csf~git221118.18db031~k     arm64        free implementation of the OpenGL API -- DRI modules
ii  libglapi-mesa:arm64                     23.0~panfork~csf~git221118.18db031~k     arm64        free implementation of the GL API -- shared library
ii  libglu1-mesa:arm64                      9.0.2-1                                  arm64        Mesa OpenGL utility library (GLU)
ii  libglx-mesa0:arm64                      23.0~panfork~csf~git221118.18db031~k     arm64        free implementation of the OpenGL API -- GLX vendor library
ii  mesa-utils                              8.5.0-1                                  arm64        Miscellaneous Mesa utilities -- symlinks
ii  mesa-utils-bin:arm64                    8.5.0-1                                  arm64        Miscellaneous Mesa utilities -- native applications

Tell me if there is anything I can do to help you get a good driver for mali G610 faster

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