Introduce ROCK 5B - ARM Desktop level SBC

If they also try to retain the $35 base model then we are a long, long time off.

Are we though? Optimistic tea leaf reading puts the Pi5 to 2024. That’s practically tomorrow. If that is 2026 then that’s the day after tomorrow.

A long, long time off would be around 2032. I don’t think it’ll take that long.

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We still haven’t had a Pi4A+ which might be interesting as the Pcie might become avail with no USB3 stealing it.

2024 is a long time when you have competition with no product to compete with especially when that is an optimistic tea leaf reading.
The video core EOL problem is a huge hurdle that not sure if they are going to try and straddle it by becoming Intel like with a basic integrated graphics and PCIe lanes for a discrete gpu.
Or the Pi5 will be a complete redesign ground up due to the removal of the VideoCore bootloader and dunno even with the resources Raspberry have if its 2026 it could leave them wide open for alternative product for an extended time.

Agree. Even for them, they can’t afford to drag the Pi4B-Class SoC to 2026, they just can’t. Max is 2024.

Dunno on past history Raspberry are very bullish on product life 2024 might be likely but they could of hit a point where the existing design is at EOL and I think they have zero royalties to pay on VC4/6.
Often though you just get denial of new products in the pipeline and then its a full release from raspberry already on the shelves.
Pi5 is much more of a problem for Raspberry than some might think and even end up integrated GPU with discrete options which might sound good but when adopted kills the whole energy point of the Arm ecosphere and in a weaker position they have been since the 1st Pi.

Who knows? But interesting to what and also when.

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Thanks @stuartiannaylor, good to know. I’ve setup linux raid over SATA and used backup drives via USB3.0 (or higher) but haven’t tried to combine the two.

Interestingly in my latest rollout, I performance tested RAID6 and RAID10 as I hadn’t previously implemented those before deploying a RAID5 array. The write throughput was similar (within 10MB/s for an array writing at around 550MB/s to 7200rpm drives), while the available space was 33% greater. Single client sustained wifi throughput is rarely above 100MB/s, however multiple simultaneous clients can nearly reach the array write limits.

I’ve also used rsync for years when RAID wasn’t an option but redundancy was vital. This can be as simple as employing cron to periodically mount and sync to a backup drive then unmounting.

I’m looking forward to testing some ideas on the Rock5. I have a few old 320GB laptop drives that could be a part of my low cost test bench.

Cheers!

  • What about the heatsink for the Rock5? How does it look like?
    Because of the wifi slot there isn’t much room for a huge passive heatsink unfortunately.

  • Enclosure?

Will they both be available at the same time as the Rock5?


So it says

This one looks really tiny :smiley:

I would have preferred a passive solution. Will have to make a custom solution.

Yeah tiny and low profile I am the opposite as the shear bulk you need for passive is huge to what even a mild air flow will do due to air being such an excellent insulator.

You can see the mount holes on the prod pics at the top of the forum and even if it was passive would prob still doing my usual of 12v fan on 5v as near silent you can get as if you can hear it you have better hearing than me :slight_smile:

I find the blowers better for cases as you can just have a small exhaust than the whole diameter of the fan.

I have a feeling as Arm SoCs get more powerful we will see the end of passive heatsinks unless they are like their x86 cousins as the wattage with all peripherals / devices running is going to warrant ever bigger passives whilst with a bit of airflow you can get ways with something extremely modest.

I ordered the coupon from allnetchina on May 17th
I still haven’t got anything besides the order confirmation e-mail
is this normal?
how long does it usually take and when will the preorder coupon orders be closed?

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It took 5 or 6 days for me to receive another email besides the order confirmation one. Stating something to the effect of redeem code will be applied when my order is ready. I can’t remember anticipating a gadget this much , probably middle school era and tech from the late 80’s

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Does the price as seen already reflect the $50 coupon discount, or is the price as seen to be reduced by $45 via the coupon?

I think that ice cooler and low profile ice cooler are perfect for this sbc.
Seeing taki udon video with 12V fan cooler larger than sbc cooler decrease temperature up to 35 C degrees

Doesn’t fit ice cooler and low profile ice cooler, are for the Pi format whilst this is PicoITX with specific cooler mounts so don’t buy one of those specifically for this.

It will be interesting if the power MCU will be able to OC or not and then maybe something with a bit more cooling could be needed.
I presume eventually but think this will be a bit like the Amlogic chips where you need the MCU code and not just a DTB hack.

https://youtu.be/i9j1Mz-xCyU :grin: fortunately no

Strange, I did not get that disclaimer email. Like @am666, I only got an email for order confirmation so far, and that was months ago.

Hopefully my order (and discount) isn’t lost! I’m looking forward to getting it.

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I also only got an order confirmation email. Lets wait this out and hopefully within 2 months we will be having that badboy in our hands :slight_smile:

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When I ordered from Ameridroid my code came right away , but I canceled because their prices were higher , this was about a week before I ordered from allnet on May 17th.

I’m not sure what way is the right way. Usually i would expect also from allnet to receive a code so i could use it when Rock model 5 is released. So far i have understood that we have to wait until Rock 5 Model B is released and we will br receiving our code.

You feel attacked? You’ve acquired your sword?? Ok cool. My comment last week was directed towards tkaiser not you but oh well. Read carefully, I am a consumer who pays for what I’m interested in and also what is practical and applicable to my needs and desires. Software developers are cool people (for the most part) but a bit sensitive in my opinion. My gripe isn’t with you personally or towards sw developers in general. My only gripe is with Amlogic and khadas. Again I love my vim3 pro but for all it’s cpu/gpu abilities it’s main operating system is in 32 bit mode. My favorite fictional character (Roland Deschain of Gilead that was) doesn’t care about the why’s of things or deep mysteries. I kinda do considering what topic is. Why does Amlogic only deal with 32 bit mode on a device made by khadas that is 64 bit? Why does khadas even allow this to occur?? I don’t really care. I’m a consumer. I consume what is interesting or important to me and my desires period. Why are software devs on this thread so ‘ in their feelings’? Again not my concern. Also a sword without a shield is nonsensical. Good day