Introduce ROCK 5B - ARM Desktop level SBC

#938

I am not really sure, all I know is that currently the implementation has a 3rd gen Valhall running slower than a 2nd gen Bifrost on a SoC that got criticism of the GPU being quite slow for spec.
Currently the driver in terms of performance is bad as it runs and works, but results are really bad to the levels we should be expecting .
That is with a 1000 Mhz clock rate that must be at the absolute max this thing can run, and 4 generations of increment of some big claims by Arm but it runs slower than a G52mp4 and that is wow bad.

https://developer.arm.com/documentation/102812/0102/GPU-activity?lang=en

I used Armbian in the below due to ppa:liujianfeng1994/panfork-mesa

It means Wayland and is a touch faster now than a g52mp4 but prob still quite a way off what I expected and not exactly sure what driver its using does that use libEGL.so.1 or libEGL_mesa.so.0?
I might have a go with ArmNN again but may end up in dependency hell as dunno if they stopped with 20.04

Doesn’t seem all that stable though.

#939

Good to know, pre-ordered mine from allnet on 20th April and still waiting to place my order (for delivery to France too).
This is going to replace my current setup which urgently needs an upgrade and serve as an all purpose machine:

  • 4G + Wifi router
  • server (development, …)

Just wondering if 8GB version I took will be enough. Are we able to change RAM quantity at ordering time?

#940

you cant change the ram quantity at ordering time if the coupon should be still valid
but you can upgrade the ram by soldering on a new set of ram chips WARNING thats very dificoult and could destroy your rock 5b

#941

ok will probably avoid upgrading ram for now. but good to know in case I need it in future

#942

yes it never hurts to ask

#943

Hello. Can we still get R3 codes to get discount?

#944

No thats not possible anymore

#945

hello i saw explainingcomputers has posted a video about the rock 5b: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w85QTDPp-4Q
he has a 4GB final 1.42 version

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#946

Got my device yesterday (ordered March 19 from Allnet). So far very pleased :wink: I’ve successfully compiled a Yocto image for it. If s.o. is interested in using Yocto, maybe my meta layer might be helpful.

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#947

Looks like we’re almost at the end of October and still no tracking info yet.

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#948

yes i am also still waiting on my tracking number

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#949

You are not alone… I hope that the delivery status will change at any moment…

#950

I have placed my 16GB preorder on the 2nd Feb. at Allnet
Got the code Email on the 18th this month and directly ordered it.
IIRC it was eight days in transit to germany with the cheaper shipping option.

So you will get them - keep calm :wave:

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#951

Yes, it seems allnet customers getting priority over ameridroid customers…

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#952

Excited to get my Rock5… Not excited for having to deal with Ameridroid. First and last time I purchase from them. Not because I don’t have it. It’s because they have no idea what’s going on, and they charged MORE than had I just gone through Allnet. Not to mention how they think they aren’t liable for a purchase if we don’t get their extra route protection. Unfortunate.

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#953

I tried to Armbian from this topic and graphic acceleration works well, glmark2-es2 score is 1039! But my intel AX210NGW m.2 adapter it doesn’t work on this build and also sometimes system freeze totally=( Anyway seem’s like this is good single board computer and i believe this problem will be solved (or on Armbian wifi drivers and stability or on official Debian distributive will be fixed video acceleration).

#954

@j.memory
Many companies try and sale you on shipping protection but time and time again (at least in the US) it has been ruled on in court that until the package is delivered it is the responsibility of the sender. The only question is weather one person files a lawsuit over $150 or it happens to enough customers to warrant at class-action.

I’m patiently waiting. I’m also uneasy about the lack of info from Ameridroid but I also understand given how chaotic this launch was. Apparently they had the factory ship them direct to get them out to customers but no shipping or tracking info has been given to them. It could turn out to be messy.

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#955

Yes your opinoin is right and i didnt payed for shipping protection

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#956

I hope that it is not going to be problematic. Being as patient as possible as I have other projects I am working on. Getting my hands on the Rock5 isn’t anything urgent, but I wish Ameridroid was more vocal about what’s happening and assertive. It’s so weird to me that this is the approach they’re taking.

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#957

glmark2-es2 score is 1039 isn’t a really good score for a Mali G610 Mp4. The X11 driver is actually pretty bad.
If you want a good score the 4005 managed on a RK3588s with the Khadas image of Wayland and presumably the Egl driver is probably where things should be landing.

If you provide the same tweaks and environment which you need for benchmarks the opensource mesa drivers of the g52mp4 of the Amlogic A311D which supposedly was a slow implementation manages approximately the same and is 4 generations or Arm claims ahead and really should be compared with a g72mp4 or the g52mp4 with a g510mp4 as there are x4 models now with g310/g510 being the lower models and g610/g710 higher models.

The scores are massively better than anything many of us have seen before but still not good for what the Mali should be capable of that the better integrated Android drivers are producing or what the EGL driver can manage even if it seems unstable.
@icecream95 is doing a ton of work and may get things stable with panfork but have a hunch it probs needs some kernel additions to employ the CSF (Command Stream Frontend) than tweaking drivers to fit the gen1 Valhall frontend. Could be totally wrong there but on Linux it doesn’t seem totally happy yet.

https://developer.arm.com/documentation/102812/0102/GPU-activity?lang=en

khadas@Khadas:~$ glmark2-es2-wayland 
arm_release_ver of this libmali is 'g6p0-01eac0', rk_so_ver is '6'.
arm_release_ver of this libmali is 'g6p0-01eac0', rk_so_ver is '6'.
=======================================================
    glmark2 2021.02
=======================================================
    OpenGL Information
    GL_VENDOR:     ARM
    GL_RENDERER:   Mali-LODX
    GL_VERSION:    OpenGL ES 3.2 v1.g6p0-01eac0.ba52c908d926792b8f5fe28f383a2b03
=======================================================
[build] use-vbo=false: FPS: 4355 FrameTime: 0.230 ms
[build] use-vbo=true: FPS: 4991 FrameTime: 0.200 ms
[texture] texture-filter=nearest: FPS: 5970 FrameTime: 0.168 ms
[texture] texture-filter=linear: FPS: 5893 FrameTime: 0.170 ms
[texture] texture-filter=mipmap: FPS: 5608 FrameTime: 0.178 ms
[shading] shading=gouraud: FPS: 4256 FrameTime: 0.235 ms
[shading] shading=blinn-phong-inf: FPS: 4327 FrameTime: 0.231 ms
[shading] shading=phong: FPS: 4161 FrameTime: 0.240 ms
[shading] shading=cel: FPS: 4104 FrameTime: 0.244 ms
[bump] bump-render=high-poly: FPS: 2764 FrameTime: 0.362 ms
[bump] bump-render=normals: FPS: 6402 FrameTime: 0.156 ms
[bump] bump-render=height: FPS: 6343 FrameTime: 0.158 ms
[effect2d] kernel=0,1,0;1,-4,1;0,1,0;: FPS: 4992 FrameTime: 0.200 ms
[effect2d] kernel=1,1,1,1,1;1,1,1,1,1;1,1,1,1,1;: FPS: 3499 FrameTime: 0.286 ms
[pulsar] light=false:quads=5:texture=false: FPS: 5799 FrameTime: 0.172 ms
[desktop] blur-radius=5:effect=blur:passes=1:separable=true:windows=4: FPS: 1630 FrameTime: 0.613 ms
[desktop] effect=shadow:windows=4: FPS: 4561 FrameTime: 0.219 ms
[buffer] columns=200:interleave=false:update-dispersion=0.9:update-fraction=0.5:update-method=map: FPS: 556 FrameTime: 1.799 ms
[buffer] columns=200:interleave=false:update-dispersion=0.9:update-fraction=0.5:update-method=subdata: FPS: 505 FrameTime: 1.980 ms
[buffer] columns=200:interleave=true:update-dispersion=0.9:update-fraction=0.5:update-method=map: FPS: 856 FrameTime: 1.168 ms
[ideas] speed=duration: FPS: 2402 FrameTime: 0.416 ms
[jellyfish] <default>: FPS: 3955 FrameTime: 0.253 ms
[terrain] <default>: FPS: 305 FrameTime: 3.279 ms
[shadow] <default>: FPS: 3988 FrameTime: 0.251 ms
[refract] <default>: FPS: 667 FrameTime: 1.499 ms
[conditionals] fragment-steps=0:vertex-steps=0: FPS: 5024 FrameTime: 0.199 ms
[conditionals] fragment-steps=5:vertex-steps=0: FPS: 4575 FrameTime: 0.219 ms
[conditionals] fragment-steps=0:vertex-steps=5: FPS: 5055 FrameTime: 0.198 ms
[function] fragment-complexity=low:fragment-steps=5: FPS: 4917 FrameTime: 0.203 ms
[function] fragment-complexity=medium:fragment-steps=5: FPS: 4710 FrameTime: 0.212 ms
[loop] fragment-loop=false:fragment-steps=5:vertex-steps=5: FPS: 4959 FrameTime: 0.202 ms
[loop] fragment-steps=5:fragment-uniform=false:vertex-steps=5: FPS: 5140 FrameTime: 0.195 ms
[loop] fragment-steps=5:fragment-uniform=true:vertex-steps=5: FPS: 4913 FrameTime: 0.204 ms
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                                  glmark2 Score: 4005 
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Is what cnxsoft managed in https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/09/20/khadas-edge2-pro-review-rockchip-rk3588s-sbc-ubuntu-22-04/